[ExI] brave new world in education

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 29 21:06:58 UTC 2017


spike wrote - OK so how can we make a humanities course that would appeal
to techno-geeks.  It shouldn’t be just something to endure, ja?

Back atcha - how do go about making algebra appealing to humanities fans?
You don't.  You teach what is needed and if they don't like it - tough.
 (Now I did try to put on a show when I taught, so don't accuse me of
reading dry notes like some do).

Play Mozart.  Show The African Queen.  Read Shakespeare's sonnets. And so
on.  The purpose is exposure to great art works.  At the very least they
will know what they don't like!

A friend of mine asserts that classical music has something for everyone,
and I agree.  I will make a hundred dollar bet that I can lead you to some
classical music you will like (tin ears excepted).

One point is that tv and radio and movies and what you can find on the web
is very limited, perhaps except for the web.  Nowadays it's all about
money, and 'art' gets left out at times.  College courses will teach some
things that you won't find 'out there'.

bill w

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:59 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *>…* *On Behalf Of *Dave Sill
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] brave new world in education
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> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
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> What if… we decided to teach humanities to the technogeeks, but instead of
> the usual curriculum taught by the usual suspects, we put the science,
> technology, engineering and math departments together and have them decide
> on a curriculum, completely open blank slate, have them choose from among
> their own STEM-oriented profs to teach it, decide on what to teach, what
> materials to use, everything, hand it over to that end of campus.
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> >…Well, any attempt to broaden education would probably be worthwhile, but
> for the full effect I think it needs to be an immersive experience guided
> by experienced teachers. It's not just about reading literature, it's about
> writing papers, learning logic, learning to discuss/debate ideas, etc…
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> OK so how can we make a humanities course that would appeal to
> techno-geeks.  It shouldn’t be just something to endure, ja?
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> What would the course look like?
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> We can pretend we are those professors, so we get a say in what goes into
> that STEM-derived humanities course.  What would you suggest putting in
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> I would have Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty Four.  But you already knew I would
> have that one, ja?
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> Others?
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> >…Brave New World, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, To Kill a Mockingbird, ...
> I could go on.
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> >…-Dave
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> Ja, and we need to get art in there somewhere.  Engineers and scientists
> would likely find interesting the work of that Italian guy Mr. Angelo.
> What was his name, Michael?  Carved a big nekkid guy out of marble.
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> While they are at it, I would sincerely like to have some really hipster
> artsy professor explain to me how the hell the artsy crowd figures stuff
> like this is worth millions of dollars:
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> https://www.wikiart.org/en/jackson-pollock
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> Deep down in our hearts, we know what this silliness is really all about:
> the frames have secret compartments stuffed with cocaine, that’s what.
> Rich people trade dope while pretending to be high toned, seeing stuff in
> these paintings.  After the get a snootful of the contents of those frames,
> they probably do see meaning in the paintings.  So now you know.  Your old
> Uncle Spike has enlightened you on art.  You’re welcome.
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