[ExI] Gravity wave math
John Clark
johnkclark at gmail.com
Mon May 29 14:18:20 UTC 2017
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:55 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
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>> …In contrast the September 14 2015 LIGO signal was so strong that in just
>> hours nearly all the scientists involved were convinced they'd found
>> colliding Black Holes, although they didn't say so publicly for about 6
>> months. There has been some criticism. justified I think, that they kept it
>> secret too long. I'll bet they've already found some cool stuff in the
>> second observing run that they won't talk about until they've finished
>> writing the journal paper…John K Clark
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> I cut them plenty of slack on this. The thing hadn’t even been on but for
> a very short time. Had I seen that signal, I would have said noooo way
> Jose, just no way. It’s too much like buying exactly one lottery ticket,
> not even knowing how to play, never bought one before, just bought it as an
> afterthought, and it wins the big jackpot, and you are the only one to pick
> that number. You would just say no, this just can’t be. I have plenty of
> dreams that go like this, but reality never does, no way. This signal must
> be a mistake.
> Then consider they would be betting it all: their careers would be
> Pons/Fleishmanned down the toilet forever if they were wrong.
>
Yeah you're right.
I just finished reading a book "Gravity's Kiss" by Harry Collins that gives
a day by day account of the discovery and the time leading up to the
official announcement. They were all terrified of becoming the next Joseph
Weber, he was a respected physicist and back in the 1970s he claimed to
have found gravitational
waves but
was soon universally recognized as being wrong and Weber became a joke. So
before they
even
started looking the LIGO
people
set up a long protocol they would go through that checked and recheck the
statistics nineteen dozen different ways before they went public with
a discovery claim.
The protocol was
designed for a subtle signal deeply buried in the noise that had to be
carefully teased out,
but
the October 12 2015
event was HUGE,
it was
far
larger than anybody expected
and and there was nothing subtle about it
;
everybody knew immediately it was the real deal but the
bureaucracy said you had to go through the entire protocol
regardless
so they did.
And
I think there was another factor, they knew they wouldn't be scooped. If
there was a rival team with their own gravitational
wave detector somewhere I'll bet they would have run through that protocol
one hell of a lot faster.
John K Clark
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