[ExI] Atheism

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Tue Aug 7 05:23:37 UTC 2018


I can agree that most people who commit atrocities aren't motivated by
ideology, but by "other reasons, usually to do with gaining and
holding on to power over other people," But you can say this about
everyone, including nazis and violent religious fundamentalists.
Atheism IS a belief system when it becomes militant and intolerant.
Let's agree to disagree.



On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Ben Zaiboc <ben at zaiboc.net> wrote:
> On 06/08/2018 15:41, Giulio Prisco wrote:
>
> I trust you'll concede that the regimes that perpetrated the
> atrocities described in the Wikipedia article are not abstract
> entities, but formed by persons like you and I. I trust you'll also
> concede that these PERSONS committed ATROCITIES in name of atheism. So
> please no more of this bullshit that atheists don't commit atrocities
> in name of their belief. They do, just like the theocratic
> fundamentalists they claim to oppose.
>
>
> You trust wrongly. There's a different between an atheist doing something
> because they're power-hungry, greedy, afraid, etc., and doing something
> because they're an atheist. The atrocities fall into the former category,
> not the latter. Even if some did, that wouldn't invalidate my point. They'd
> have to be isolated cases, not the general rule, and I've still never heard
> of any.
>
> These PERSONS didn't commit their atrocities in the name of atheism. As I
> said, they committed them for other reasons, usually to do with gaining and
> holding on to power over other people.
>
> "please no more of this bullshit that atheists don't commit atrocities in
> name of their belief"
>
> Well, you're right that that specific sentence is bullshit, just as the
> statement that "people who don't take part in any sport do X in the name of
> their sport" is. Atheism is not a belief system. Surely you understand that?
>
> --
> Ben Zaiboc
>
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