[ExI] Things I have (sort of) changed my mind on (3): Tabloid transhumanism

[William Flynn Wallace]

Now all we need are people in D.C. with three digit IQs - thanks   fin
billw

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:13 PM Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:01 PM William Flynn Wallace
> <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> One possibility: get general acceptance of cloning humans, so that you
> >> can manufacture babies (e.g., for would-be parents biologically unable
> >> to conceive).  There will be less resistance to editing their genes -
> >> and then editing natural-born babies can be promoted as just being
> >> fair, giving them the same advantages.
> >>   adrian
> >
> > They are already cloning family pets.  Why not people?  "That's one
> small step for a dog, one giant leap for mankind."
>
> I meant babies, as in new people w/no parents or relatives to object
> to the genetic modification of, not necessarily clones traceable to
> specific ancestry.  (Though start with cloned offspring, perhaps.)
> That said...
>
> > I can see replacing people who died.  But would you need permission to
> clone a living person?  Laws of inheritance would go crazy.
>
> If that were to happen today, legally the clone would be the former
> person's descendant, not the same individual.  Laws of inheritance
> would treat the clone as just another offspring.  The clone doesn't
> have the source person's knowledge or memories, and is thus no more a
> replacement than any ordinary son or daughter is a replacement.
>
> And of course you'd need the living person's permission.  Just like
> you (legally and morally, if not biologically) need it for the natural
> method.
>
> > Prediction (100% accuracy) - the government will get into this and mess
> it up badly.
>
> But of course.  One trick is to set up the situation so that the way
> they mess it up doesn't derail (and ideally reinforces) the objective.
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