[ExI] Rick Warren on religion

spike at rainier66.com spike at rainier66.com
Sun Dec 9 17:58:21 UTC 2018



From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of William Flynn Wallace


>… I"ll bet most kids, teens, put their parent's religion down when filling out forms until they reach college…


Indeed sir?  On what forms would such a question be allowed?


>…I don't know what any of you have experienced.  Many of you are atheists.  In my case it was a big struggle within myself to come out as an atheist.  Family flak doesn't even begin to describe it.


>…What people put down on forms and what they truly believe can be very, very different.


bill w


I am surprised such forms exist in our modern world.


I have a fun contribution to the notion, an observation from the current 7th grade public school curriculum.  Since at least the time I was that age, religion in all its forms was avoided in public schools.  It is difficult or impossible to explain the history of Europe in particular without talking a lot about Christianity, and without going into detail on the Protestant reformation.  They tried.


Now, suddenly, everything is different.  The online resources are filled with detailed discussions about not just the Reformation, but individual players, in detail, with religious dogma crammed in there all over the place.  So… why the sudden change?


I offer this explanation: with the arrival of excellent online curriculum, the school administrators are suddenly freed from the risk that individual teachers would say something, anything, that would offend someone, anyone.  The online material is excellent, it explains so much.  If a parent complains, then the student has the option of not doing that unit.  There is enough material that the student can learn around that material and still make the tall pointy grade.  Now the administration can freely offer online material about Christianity, Protestantism or Catholicism, Islam, Hindu, anything they want (and they do.)


I have viewed some of the material my son’s school subscribes to, and it is excellent.  It doesn’t appear to promote any particular religion.  The students come away with so much better understanding of European history; there is no comparison to the old days when teachers were afraid to mention it.  Much of history cannot be understood without detailed study of religion and its role in politics.  This is clear if one gazes at BillW’s world religion map and noticing it has sharp boundaries that are on the boundaries between nations.







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