[ExI] Canonizer 2.0

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 19:58:25 UTC 2018


Hi William,



Thanks for the great input, things like that really help.



The initial reason I started this was I wanted to know what the best (as in
most expert consensus) thoughts on consciousness were, if any.  All I could
find in any of the so called “peer reviewed journals” was just junk, and a
bunch of people yelling bad arguments about how everyone else but them was
wrong.



I admit I also had an ulterior motive.  I had some understanding of what I
thought were some good ideas on consciousness – but having no experience or
education – couldn’t get anything even close to being published.  I needed
a tool where I could either build some expert consensus around my theory or
find a better theory any experts could come up with, to push the field
forward.



So, I guess it’s kind of a consensus building petition kind of thing.  I
wanted to communicate to everyone there is not so called “hard problem”,
and the simple solution is just not being “qualia blind.”  I was able to
build a HUGE consensus around this general idea, contained in this camp:



https://canonizer.com/topic/88-Representational-Qualia/6?



That was huge!!  Nobody had realized anything like this amount of consensus
was possible in this field.  Especially including Chalmers, Dennett,
Hameroff, Smythies…  all being in the same camp.  Since we were able to
push the lessor important controversial issues down into sub camps, this
allowed us to build and discover that there isn’t that much expert
disagreement on consciousness after all.



Next, we want to use it for things like global warming.  I can’t wait to
see what kind of consensus people can really find on supposedly important
topics like that.



We are also about to use the system as a primary tool to build the
“platform” of the new upstart political United Utah Party”  When people ask
us what the united parties platform is, we want to tell them that if they
haven’t “canonized” what they want, we don’t yet know exactly what our
platform is.  The united Utah parties’ goal is to find out and get
everyone, everything they want.


We want a way so a million people can communicate, concisely and
quantitatively, to their elected representatives, about what they want.



Does that help at all?



On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 12:31 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> to brent alsop\
>
> I went to the website and still don't quite know what you are up to.  If
> it is any kind of surveying, questionnaires, etc.,  I want to know who you
> have and what are their qualifications.  Designing these things takes
> experts.  I am a social psychologist and know very well that you can sway
> opinions wildly and inaccurately by the designs - the wording of the
> questions, etc..
> bill w
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 12:34 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
>
>> Cool!
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>>
>> Brent where the heck have you been man?  Seems like a long time since we
>> heard from ya.
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>> spike
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>> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *Brent Allsop
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2018 8:56 AM
>> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Cc:* Jim Bennett <jim at bennettgrouputah.com>
>> *Subject:* [ExI] Canonizer 2.0
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>> Hi fellow extropians,
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>> For those who haven't heard, now that we have a little Ether money, we've
>> launched Canonizer 2.0.
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>> My Partner Jim Bennett just put together this video:
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>> https://vimeo.com/307590745
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>> If anyone is interested in "investing"  (legally, we need to call it
>> donating, at least for now - till we do our canonizer security token
>> offering.) to help move things forward, let me know.
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>> Brent Allsop
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