[ExI] Update on the Hawaiian observatory shutdown

SR Ballard sen.otaku at gmail.com
Wed Aug 21 21:14:38 UTC 2019

I feel like talking about the “barbarous idiots” in Hawaii to be contributing absolutely nothing, while also being actively insulting. I think it’s probably more fruitful to talk about advancements. We already know everyone’s positions on the Hawaiian protestors. 

SR Ballard

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:46 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:43 AM BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Nearly as crazy as John calling the native Hawaiians ignorant.
> Sorry I misspoke, I meant to call the native Hawaiian protestors ignorant braindead dumb barbarians. But is it really your position that somebody is not ignorant if they illegally stop the construction of an instrument that would teach us more about the universe because it would disturb an invisible man who lives on top of a mountain? Can you tell me with a straight face that is wise behavior? 
>> > Both groups are smart
> Both groups were dumb. One group was dumb for obvious reasons but the astronomers were dumb too, they overestimated the intelligence and rationality of the native Hawaiian protesters and they should have glad handed and patronized them more. But I guess most astronomers just aren't natural politicians.
>> > It's called asymmetrical warfare. If the giant has armour and a big sword, you use a slingshot.
> The astronomers had a very small slingshot called reason. The giant had armour called Dwayne (the Rock) Johnson and a big sword called Aquaman. The fight was never even close, the poor astronomers never stood a chance.
>> > If the group is larger and you treat them with contempt and call them deplorables, then you end up with you know who.
> It may interest you to know that liberal Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren agrees with you completely, she fully supports the deplorable Hawaiian ignoramuses.  
>> > Weaker members of society are to be looked after, not trampled on
> I agree, we need to treat our astronomers with more respect, they're human beings too and deserve some dignity. 
> John K Clark
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