[ExI] How Corporate Media distorts Hawaiian Protests

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 30 16:46:55 UTC 2019

I think you are seriously in the dark about this group.  All of us value
science and if I am not mistaken no one supports the protesters.  I am sure
if I am wrong I will hear about it.  You did the same thing last year when
you accused us of being for Pres. T.  Now I think you are wrong again.
bill w

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:37 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:57 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> <
>> https://fair.org/home/protectors-of-mauna-kea-are-fighting-colonialism-not-science/
>> >
> I should have stopped reading after the ridiculous headline "*Protectors
> of Mauna Kea Are Fighting Colonialism, Not Science*", but silly me I
> didn't. The author, some dimwit named Julianne Tveten, says Mauna Kea is an
> environmentally sensitive conservation district, but construction of the
> Thirty Meter Telescope passed all environmental impact studies and I don't
> imagine those studies were very difficult because the ecosystem on top of
> that mountain is one of the youngest and simplest on the planet. She then
> complained that the New York Times was bias because it "*called the
> protectors’ movement “creationism,” ridiculing activists’ claims that the
> telescope was a profit-seeking venture*", it's not bias if it's true and
> if that activity doesn't deserve ridicule what does? Tveten attempted to
> prove that the Thirty Meter Telescope really was a profit making venture by
> pointing out that some of the money to build it came from "*Intel founder
> Gordon Moore’s philanthropic organization*". And that is one reason, but
> not the only reason, I called her a dimwit.
> She also complained about a headline in the Washington Post that said  “*Native
> Hawaiians’ Protests Stop Researchers From Studying the Skies*", well the
> barbarians shut down the entire observatory for a month and permanently
> killed a telescope that would allowed us to see things 10 times dimmer than
> anything we can see now, so it's perfectly true, native Hawaiian's
> protests *DID* stop researchers from studying the skies. And that's
> another reason I called her a dimwit. There are more reasons but you get
> the idea.
> I have come to an interesting conclusion regarding myself, I don't
> understand my fellow human beings worth a damn. I can't think of a more
> clear cut example of the battle between reason and anti-reason than this
> telescope business, and I felt a great sense of outrage that the forces of
> reason, despite having won a legal victory, were completely destroyed. I
> thought members of this list, who I assumed could see the beauty in science
> and the magnificence of the universe, would feel the same way. But in that
> I couldn't have been more wrong.
>  John K Clark
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