[ExI] Hawaii telescope protests

[Dan TheBookMan]

John, why do you feel the moral obligation or should I say blind rage to distort what others are saying here?

Regards,

Dan
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> On Jul 24, 2019, at 10:49 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:21 PM SR Ballard <sen.otaku at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > You have absolutely no proof that those works would have survived anyways,
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> I don't get it. Why do you feel a moral obligation to make excuses for barbarians?
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>> > the library was already in decline
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> I don't get it. Why do you feel a moral obligation to make excuses for barbarians?
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>> > Yes, I do think the telescopes can discover groundbreaking things, but just because it can doesn’t make it right. 
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> So the need to defend barbarians has become so strong that you disparage the virtue of finding groundbreaking new things about the universe. I have to keep reminding myself that this is the Extropian list.
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>> > You think the Gods would take care of themselves” is a bizarre thing to say. In many religious traditions, men and gods exist side by side and interact quite closely. Often these gods are not even terribly powerful outside of a specific domain. 
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> Does anybody else around here think the protection of inept invisible Gods is a sufficient reason to prevent us from learning more about the universe? If inept invisible Gods want us to be ignorant and visible competent astronomers want us to know more which side do you want to stand with? I would have thought the answer to this question would have been obvious to any member of the Extropian List but instead I find myself in the minority. This sure isn't the list of old.
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>>  > One isn’t “excusing” barbarians by explaining how and why they do what they do.
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> Well, you're sure as hell not excusing my behavior of criticizing people for shutting down the most important observatory in the world by explaining why I might think that is a bad idea.  
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>> > How do you get to be arbiter of who is civilized and who is not?
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> I don't get it. Why do you feel a moral obligation to make excuses for barbarians?
> 
> John K Clark
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