[ExI] ai emotions

[Brent Allsop]

I’ve been confronting Naive Realists bleating completely qualia blind (only
use one word ‘red”, instead of multiple words like red and redness to talk
about different physical properties and qualities.) rhetoric on places like
quora and reddit.  Sometimes it is so frustrating that so many people just
can’t think.  But then when I return to the ExI list, I see responses like
the following that finally take me out of that gutter, and lift me up to
the clouds providing new thoughts I’ve never considered before like:



Stuart LaForge: “By your logic, Mary deserves no compassion before she is
released from

her colorless prison.”



Mike Dougherty: “Compassion shouldn't be measured by how much the recipient
deserves, instead by how much the giver gives.



William Flynn Wallace: “so on the average rich people have more compassion
than poor people”



After feeling so dirty, and frustrated with so little progress, with so
many, it is so nice to be pulled back up in the clouds, trying to keep up
with you guys taking me where I’ve never  been before.



Thanks everyone, for providing such an inspiring forum, for so many
continued years, and for restoring my faith in humanity so often.


On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 11:26 AM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:38 AM Mike Dougherty <msd001 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:34 AM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
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mike wrote - Compassion shouldn't be measured by how much the recipient
deserves, instead by how much the giver gives.

so on the average rich people have more compassion than poor people  bill w

Wow, no.  I don't even know how to get from what I meant to how you
interpreted it.

Are you suggesting that compassion=money?

Very often it does - money to churches and synagogues and the rest - other
charities.  What other way to measure it did you have in mind?  Time of
course - right Spike?    bill w
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 9:32 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

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> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2019 8:02 PM
> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] ai emotions
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