# [ExI] puzzle III

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 6 18:39:26 UTC 2019

```I just am having a bad day and am not following the answers.

Sailor 1 uses two condoms.
Sailor 2 uses the condom on the outside as used by sailor 1.
Sailor 3 inverts the inner condom as used by Sailor 1 and puts the Sailor 2
condom over it.

The idea is that the prostitute cannot catch her own disease again.
Adrian, I will take your word for it.  Spike I am having trouble following
your diagram, but if you think it compatible with the answer above, well
and good.

You were going to reply to my nuclear power plant post- just reminding you.

bill w

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 12:51 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of
> Subject: Re: [ExI] puzzle III
>
> Wouldn't the first sailor have already dirtied the inner condom's inner
> layer by the time the second sailor uses it?  Which means either the
> prostitute or the second sailor might get what the first had...  Adrian
>
>
> No.  Label the surfaces according to who it touches.
>
> Surface A touches sailor 1
> B touches C
> D touches harlot.
>
> OK he's done, removes harlot-side condom, sets aside, removes sailor-side
> condom, sets that aside.
>
> Second sailor uses condom CD puts his stuff in contact with surface C.
> C touches sailor 2
> D touches harlot.
>
> OK he's done.
>
> Third sailor inverts condom AB
>
> B touches sailor 3
> A touches surface C
> D touches harlot.
>
> OK he's done, everybody goes home with no new diseases.
>
> spike
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:01 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK got it.
> >
> >
> >
> > First sailor uses both condoms.  Sets outer condom aside.
> >
> >
> >
> > Second sailor inverts inner condom and uses just the one.  Harlot gets
> two clean surfaces.
> >
> >
> >
> > Third sailor (presumably the lowest ranking) takes first condom without
> inverting and uses just the one, touching a surface which the harlot has
> previously contacted with the first sailor.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nobody catches anything new.  Or rather not that particular day.
> >
> >
> >
> > spike
> >
> >
> >
> > From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:45 PM
> > To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> > Subject: Re: [ExI] puzzle III
> >
> >
> >
> > My second and third solutions still work with that clarification.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 4:23 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> > OK you cheaters, as inventive as you are (and I am impressed), revise
> the puzzle to require:  female prostitute; sailors all male; all three
> sailors have sex with the woman.  Four different STDs.  Hint available...
> >
> >
> >
> > bill w
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 4:41 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 1:22 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I struck out with that puzzle.  Here's one I ran across a long time
> ago, so you might have heard it.  If not, let me know.
> >
> >
> >
> > Three sailors and one prostitute and two condoms.  All have different
> STDs.
> >
> >
> >
> > bill w
> >
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> > One of the sailors is also the prostitute (side business.)  They first
> guy uses the first condom to do the second guy, pays him or her, third guy
> uses second condom to do the second guy, pays him or her, all three report
> for duty aboard ship the next day.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alternate solution:  all three sailors are female and whore is male.  So
> the first sailor puts a condom on him, does him, pays him, second sailor
> puts second condom over first, does him, pays him, third sailor reverses
> outer condom which would have exposed her to the first sailor’s disease but
> she gets away uninfected because the whore can’t get it going a third time,
> so she doesn’t pay him and saves money at the same time.  The puzzle
> doesn’t actually require that all three sailors get laid.  Three is a tall
> order ja?  Even for a professional.
> >
> >
> >
> > spike
> >
> >
> >
> > From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:34 PM
> > To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> > Subject: Re: [ExI] puzzle III
> >
> >
> >
> > Three possibly-cheating solutions:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) They never met.  All 6 got their STDs from different sources.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) Not all STDs transmit at 100%.  It is possible for two people with
> STDs to have sex and not give each other what they got.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) "All" does not include the condoms.  Sailors 1 & 2 had STDs, used
> condoms, and did not transmit.  The prostitute and sailor 3 were
> disease-free when they had sex sans condom.  Sailor 3 then used a dirty
> needle or otherwise got a STD from a non-sexual source.  The prostitute's
> "D" is pregnancy, specifically sailor 3's child.
> >
> >
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