[ExI] puzzle III

Wed Mar 6 20:07:07 UTC 2019

I confirm that what you laid out is basically Spike's answer.  (And now
that I think about it, I have seen this puzzle in a different form before -
but I wanted to focus on alternate answers.)

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 10:43 AM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
wrote:

> I just am having a bad day and am not following the answers.
>
> Sailor 1 uses two condoms.
> Sailor 2 uses the condom on the outside as used by sailor 1.
> Sailor 3 inverts the inner condom as used by Sailor 1 and puts the Sailor
> 2 condom over it.
>
> The idea is that the prostitute cannot catch her own disease again.
> Adrian, I will take your word for it.  Spike I am having trouble following
> your diagram, but if you think it compatible with the answer above, well
> and good.
>
> You were going to reply to my nuclear power plant post- just reminding you.
>
> bill w
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 12:51 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of
>> Adrian Tymes
>> Subject: Re: [ExI] puzzle III
>>
>> Wouldn't the first sailor have already dirtied the inner condom's inner
>> layer by the time the second sailor uses it?  Which means either the
>> prostitute or the second sailor might get what the first had...  Adrian
>>
>>
>> No.  Label the surfaces according to who it touches.
>>
>> Surface A touches sailor 1
>> B touches C
>> D touches harlot.
>>
>> OK he's done, removes harlot-side condom, sets aside, removes sailor-side
>> condom, sets that aside.
>>
>> Second sailor uses condom CD puts his stuff in contact with surface C.
>> C touches sailor 2
>> D touches harlot.
>>
>> OK he's done.
>>
>> Third sailor inverts condom AB
>>
>> B touches sailor 3
>> A touches surface C
>> D touches harlot.
>>
>> OK he's done, everybody goes home with no new diseases.
>>
>> spike
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:01 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK got it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > First sailor uses both condoms.  Sets outer condom aside.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Second sailor inverts inner condom and uses just the one.  Harlot gets
>> two clean surfaces.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Third sailor (presumably the lowest ranking) takes first condom without
>> inverting and uses just the one, touching a surface which the harlot has
>> previously contacted with the first sailor.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nobody catches anything new.  Or rather not that particular day.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > spike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf
>> > Of Adrian Tymes
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:45 PM
>> > To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [ExI] puzzle III
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > My second and third solutions still work with that clarification.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 4:23 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK you cheaters, as inventive as you are (and I am impressed), revise
>> the puzzle to require:  female prostitute; sailors all male; all three
>> sailors have sex with the woman.  Four different STDs.  Hint available...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > bill w
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 4:41 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 1:22 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK, I struck out with that puzzle.  Here's one I ran across a long time
>> ago, so you might have heard it.  If not, let me know.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Three sailors and one prostitute and two condoms.  All have different
>> STDs.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > bill w
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > One of the sailors is also the prostitute (side business.)  They first
>> guy uses the first condom to do the second guy, pays him or her, third guy
>> uses second condom to do the second guy, pays him or her, all three report
>> for duty aboard ship the next day.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Alternate solution:  all three sailors are female and whore is male.
>> So the first sailor puts a condom on him, does him, pays him, second sailor
>> puts second condom over first, does him, pays him, third sailor reverses
>> outer condom which would have exposed her to the first sailor’s disease but
>> she gets away uninfected because the whore can’t get it going a third time,
>> so she doesn’t pay him and saves money at the same time.  The puzzle
>> doesn’t actually require that all three sailors get laid.  Three is a tall
>> order ja?  Even for a professional.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > spike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf
>> > Of Adrian Tymes
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:34 PM
>> > To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [ExI] puzzle III
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Three possibly-cheating solutions:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 1) They never met.  All 6 got their STDs from different sources.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2) Not all STDs transmit at 100%.  It is possible for two people with
>> STDs to have sex and not give each other what they got.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 3) "All" does not include the condoms.  Sailors 1 & 2 had STDs, used
>> condoms, and did not transmit.  The prostitute and sailor 3 were
>> disease-free when they had sex sans condom.  Sailor 3 then used a dirty
>> needle or otherwise got a STD from a non-sexual source.  The prostitute's
>> "D" is pregnancy, specifically sailor 3's child.
>> >
>> >
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