[ExI] Just some thoughts, nothing new really
BillK
pharos at gmail.com
Fri May 10 16:55:08 UTC 2019
On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 15:28, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:42 PM Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Just some comments I posted somebody's blog today:
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>> While a culture change towards a nirvana of reason, compassion and good cheer would be nice, I wouldn't keep my fingers crossed.
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>> We are all human, therefore fallen.
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> Fallen? Sinners? I'd say we're all human and carry evolutionary baggage.
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>> Evolution optimizes for individual survival in a social context, and the payoff matrix of this game, given the very physical underpinnings of our reality, does reward mendacity, manipulativeness and mayhem under many circumstances.
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>> It's a simple fact that lying jerks exist, that they flock to power, and that coalitions of jerks controlling sheeple have been in constant warfare since time immemorial. As long as lying jerks exist and are able to gain power, the underlying mechanism at the core of social dysfunction will not change. Sure, the content of what lying jerks say changes all the time - it used to be that they spoke a lot about piety and god, when the social Zeitgeist was of a sacerdotal persuasion. Now lying jerks are staying out of the pew and flock to the NGO, the campus and to Twitter.
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>> The old Soviets wanted to create the homo sovieticus, well-adapted to run in the vanguard of the proletariat. They failed but they were onto something: You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. A society made of humans will necessarily simmer with constant low-level warfare of everybody against everybody, with occasional catastrophic upheavals. But technology will come to the rescue - genetically engineered Good People will eventually replace the wild type. I hope.
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> I'm not sure how you go from a world of wild humans to a world of man made Good People, but we're a way off being able to create Good People. And a single Bad Person could easily take over a planet full of Good People.
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> -Dave
Once we have Total Surveillance and become cells within the AI Borg
Hive Mind we will all be Good People.
Bad People are so dangerous that they will be treated as cancer cells
and destroyed.
Humans simmering with constant warfare cannot survive as their
weaponry becomes more and more powerful. The human species will change
dramatically or become extinct.
BillK
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