[ExI] dead weight

[William Flynn Wallace]

People should be free to peacefully migrate wherever they please rather
than wherever some ruling elite decides (whether that decision involves a
voting majority or whatnot).

Regards,

Dan

You accuse others of being naive, but the above is the most naive thing I
have seen since I joined this group.
bill w

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:23 PM Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On May 15, 2019, at 9:52 AM, <spike at rainier66.com> <spike at rainier66.com>
> wrote:
>
> …
>
>
>
> > Another issue:  98 countries according to Google have birth rates below
> replacement.  Result:  fewer people working to support the retired and to
> pay off debts.
>
>
>
>
>
> Eh, not necessarily.  Birth isn’t the only way for a country to get new
> citizens, and really isn’t even the best way.  If a country allows in and
> naturalizes only those that country chooses, then that country gets people
> who are capable of contributing to pay those debts, rather than those who
> contribute to creating more debt.
>
>
>
> That’s the difference between legal and illegal immigration.
>
>
> No, it isn’t. Legal immigration is simply immigration that’s allowed by
> law. Illegal immigration is that immigration which is not allowed by law.
>
> As for what contributes to US public debts, immigrants, legal or not,
> actually take less from the public fund per capita than non-immigrants.
> (This should painfully obvious for illegal immigrants, since the law limits
> what they can get and the risk of being arrested and deported typically
> makes them not want to interface with welfare agencies, schools, or any
> place where they might come under scrutiny by the government or snitches.)
>
> Also, you speak as if everyone can easily determine what’s best for a
> nation. That’s not only very hard to determine, but it’s naive to think
> that’s what guides public immigration policy (or national politics in
> general). It’s not the nation (or in your usage “country”) that allows this
> or that. It’s whoever’s in charge of the state. You might fancifully
> believe that the state represents the nation, embodies the desires and
> opinions of 320 or so million people, but that’s not the reality.
>
> Since others have raised it here too, the libertarian position on
> immigration is open borders or, rather, no borders. People should be free
> to peacefully migrate wherever they please rather than wherever some ruling
> elite decides (whether that decision involves a voting majority or
> whatnot).
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
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>
> http://author.to/DanUst
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