[ExI] Mathematics Risque tale :)

[William Flynn Wallace]

I'm not sure that banning rape jokes is moral progress at a time when
rape and sexual violence is the main theme in the massively popular
Game of Thrones series

The above is a non-sequitur.  You can't ban anything like this, but if it
were up to me, I'd do it in a split nanosecond, and I am usually a powerful
opponent of censorship.  Many women have been scarred emotionally for life
even by attempted rape, much less the real thing.  Not a topic for humor if
you have any empathy for women.  What's next?  Abortion jokes?  Syphilis
jokes?  Completely disgusting.  ( No, I am not hung up about sex.  I taught
the course for several years.)
bill w

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 4:57 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:19 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 15:41 Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Tastes change, but I see it as moral progress that rape jokes aren’t
>>> seen as funny today.
>>>
>>
>> I agree, which is why I found this joke to be very tasteless.  It's not
>> even really funny, it's more like "let's see how many math references I can
>> make".  And those math references are used to write a detailed description
>> of rape.  I'm no SJW, and I'm definitely not a fan of trigger warnings or
>> snowflake culture, but this joke is super creepy, especially because you
>> can tell someone had fun writing it.  I think everything is grounds for
>> humor, but this isn't a joke, it's just a far-too-detailed description of
>> rape.
>>
>
> While I could follow along with everything leading up to the rape itself,
> I found the rape itself to branch into abstract, impenetrable metaphor - as
> most attempts at metaphorical description of rape tend to.  Even in certain
> older days, describing the deed itself was vulgar, its details poorly
> alluded to.  (Widespread misconceptions about the process and what happens
> during it, especially from a female point of view, may have contributed: a
> writer can have a hard time making metaphor to what the writer does not
> have a clear understanding of.  As others have put it, "most people have
> had nowhere near as much sex as most people imagine that most people do.")
>
> For this *and* for the reason of modern sensibilities, I believe it would
> have worked better had the actual rape not happened - if, for instance, the
> protagonist beat off the would-be rapist and escaped with her (apparent)
> virginity intact.
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