[ExI] ccp struggles

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Tue Apr 14 21:51:47 UTC 2020



From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat


>…You think that there would have been millions of murders in America if there were no “right to bear arms”??




There would have been hundreds of millions.


We would never have had the War of 1812.  It would be the War of 1795, and the British would have won.  We would be subjects of the queen today, bowing and meekly paying any tax she wished to dictate to us.


>…Why is America so different to other countries in this regard?


America was born out of overthrowing tyranny.  It is in our DNA.  That’s why we don’t have runaway government power here.


When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  When the government fears the people, there is liberty.  


Which do you prefer?  Me too.




>…I said it before I'll say it again, regardless of how beautiful a theory is if it doesn't fit the facts it must be abandoned…


John feel free to abandon any theory you wish.  That is why we have a second amendment, for those who wish to abandon the theory that Americans have rights.



> There are Americans who will argue Americans’ civil rights can be rescinded at the government’s whim,


>…That is true. I've even heard of an American who I believe happens to be the head of the government's executive branch say "I have the right to do anything" and "I have the right to do a lot of things that people don’t even know about" and "The federal government has absolute power" and "When somebody is the president of the United States their authority is total." But we have rednecks with shotguns so we have no need to worry.  John K Clark


It worked: the federal government did not take over and assume dictatorial control of the country or violate Americans’ constitutional rights.  


Aren’t you glad we have a constitution?  So am I.



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