[ExI] ccp struggles

[William Flynn Wallace]

Spike, I am lost.  Describe for me the scenario where hundreds of millions
of Americans are murdered.  That's a number that is at least four times as
high as any dictator achieved.  Just who is murdering whom?  bill w

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 7:05 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The main reason we won the Revolutionary war was France.  bill w
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> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:56 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat
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>> >…You think that there would have been millions of murders in America if
>> there were no “right to bear arms”??
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>> No.
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>> There would have been hundreds of millions.
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>> We would never have had the War of 1812.  It would be the War of 1795,
>> and the British would have won.  We would be subjects of the queen today,
>> bowing and meekly paying any tax she wished to dictate to us.
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>> >…Why is America so different to other countries in this regard?
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>> America was born out of overthrowing tyranny.  It is in our DNA.  That’s
>> why we don’t have runaway government power here.
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>> When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  When the
>> government fears the people, there is liberty.
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>> Which do you prefer?  Me too.
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>> >…I said it before I'll say it again, regardless of how beautiful a
>> theory is if it doesn't fit the facts it must be abandoned…
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>> John feel free to abandon any theory you wish.  That is why we have a
>> second amendment, for those who wish to abandon the theory that Americans
>> have rights.
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>> *> **There are Americans who will argue Americans’ civil rights can be
>> rescinded at the government’s whim,*
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>> >…That is true. I've even heard of an American who I believe happens to
>> be the head of the government's executive branch say "*I have the right
>> to do anything*" and "*I have the right to do a lot of things that
>> people don’t even know about*" and "*The federal government has absolute
>> power*" and "*When somebody is the president of the United States their
>> authority is total*." But we have rednecks with shotguns so we have no
>> need to worry.  John K Clark
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>> It worked: the federal government did not take over and assume
>> dictatorial control of the country or violate Americans’ constitutional
>> rights.
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>> Aren’t you glad we have a constitution?  So am I.
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>> spike
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