[ExI] Stephen Wolfram proposes new framework for fundamental physics

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Sat Apr 18 07:55:23 UTC 2020


More thoughts:

Wolfram’s digital physics is fully deterministic, which seems to
exclude free will. But there is computational irreducibility...

https://turingchurch.net/computational-irreducibility-in-wolframs-digital-physics-and-free-will-e413e496eb0a

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:21 AM Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I tried to post this a couple of days ago, but there was an error. Retrying.
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> From the FAQ:
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> Q: What does your model say about the simulation argument?
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> A: The model implies that there is a definite computational rule that
> determines every aspect of what happens in our universe. If the
> universe is to be considered a “simulation” this would suggest that
> the rule is being determined by something outside the system, and
> presumably in an “intentional” way. It is difficult enough to extend
> the notion of intentionality far beyond the specifics of what humans
> do, making it unrealistic to attribute it to something beyond even the
> universe. In addition, the concept of rule-space relativity implies
> that in a sense all possible rules are equivalent, at least to an
> appropriate observer, and therefore there would be nothing for an
> entity setting up the simulation to “intentionally decide”—since any
> rule they could choose would appear to be the same universe to
> observers embedded within it.
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> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:20 PM spike jones via extropy-chat
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> > From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
> > Subject: Re: [ExI] Stephen Wolfram proposes new framework for fundamental physics
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> > https://turingchurch.net/stephen-wolfram-proposes-new-framework-for-fundamental-physics-629833845470
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> > >…He would seem to have rediscovered the concept of Planck scale.
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> > The thing to worry about is if he discovers this is all a digital simulation.  If you really ponder Church-Turing, it doesn’t seem too far-fetched.  But hey, perhaps it is a good thing.
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