[ExI] Existing as stored data

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 08:10, spike jones via extropy-chat <
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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> Ja of course. ...
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> Sorry, Spike. This wasn't directed at you. Somehow I missed off Giulio's
> remark "Just happens *physically*", which was in response to me saying
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> Ben Zaiboc
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> No worries Ben, religion always requires inventiveness and imagination.
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> The problem is when a hardcore empiricist examines his own long-held religious convictions.
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> I had an experience that may be relevant, a commend made by the bride of my friend from Washington who lives near Mount Peak.  She was well aware of my philosophical path.  Her comment went along these lines:
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> If atheism is right, then the things we do in this life are irrelevant for they all lead to the same place in a short enough time.  Even if we think of our children and how to improve their world, that too is irrelevant for they too face the same short time in a meaningless existence with no real destiny, and so on with their children.  The notion that all of our existence is all perfectly meaningless is not acceptable.  Therefore, we assume there is a point to it all.
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> Relevance and meaning are value judgements made up by humans, without any
objective basis. There is nothing in physics to say that a speck of dust is
less meaningful than a galaxy.

> I chose to not contest the notion.  She too seemed to be able to do something I am utterly unable to do: choose one’s belief.  I am one who cannot choose what I believe, for if I could, I would never have rejected my comfortable religion to start with.  I was happy there.  It was very difficult for me when I began to realize it was all wrong, and I don’t feel as if I had the option to both believe and disbelieve at the same time.
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