[ExI] No gods, no meaning?

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Wed Apr 22 23:13:04 UTC 2020

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 22/04/2020 18:39, Adrian Tymes wrote:
> > agnosticism is a lack of belief in gods.  Atheism is a belief in the
> > lack of gods.
> This is patently false. Agnosticism has nothing at all to say about
> belief, it's about knowledge (from the greek, 'Gnosis', meaning
> knowledge). Agnosticism is the position that you don't/can't know.

And thus, a lack of belief.

> Atheism, in it's most common form, is the lack of belief in gods. Some
> people define a 'strong', or 'hard' form of atheism that is an assertion
> that no gods exist, but that is a minority view.
> These things are easy to look up.


"Atheism is, in the broadest sense, an absence of belief in the existence
of deities.  Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any
deities exist.  In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the
position that there are no deities."

I guess both meanings are in use.
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