[ExI] attn" Henry

[William Flynn Wallace]

Thanks Henry!  Do schools of medicine and clinical psychology now try to
teach these skills?  And are people who don't have them to the proper
degree somehow kept from graduating or going into practice?  bill w

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 6:34 PM Henry Rivera via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Also consider that there is much variability among psychotherapists. There
> are therapist variables that effect outcomes that are independent of
> therapist education level, type of therapy training, sex, age, and
> experience as a therapist.
>
> Scott Miller studies this and coined the term Supershrinks to describe
> highly effective elite psychotherapists whose impressive outcomes are
> undeniable. Dr. Miller concluded these therapists all had some things in
> common. The good news is these can be cultivated. They are assessing one’s
> baseline skillset, engaging in deliberate practice to improve those skills,
> and obtaining ongoing feedback. And there are likely therapist variables
> that effect outcomes that cannot be cultivated. But he suggests the
> influence of those is less than the three components Miller discovered.
>
> You can learn more about this here among other places:
>
>
> https://deliberatepracticeinpsychotherapy.com/articles-on-therapist-development/
>
> https://www.scottdmiller.com/about-scott/
>
> -Henry
>
> On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:00 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> > *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* [ExI] attn" Henry
>
>
>
> >…Yeah, psych does some good.  Notice that I did not say that the
> secretaries and psychiatrists both failed.  In fact, both succeeded with
> some patients. It was only that the doctors did not do better than the
> secretaries.  Same type of study was done with psychoanalysts with the same
> outcome.  Long ago- 60s. All some people need is a good listener and all
> the stuff one learns in grad school is not needed.  bill w
>
>
>
> Ja and something else occurred to me: the psych doctor’s secretary might
> likely do better at being an amateur psychologist than the dentist’s
> secretary.  Reasoning: the psychologist and psychiatrist might be more
> likely to hire the person who has the skillset so familiar to their
> profession.
>
>
>
> spike
> _______________________________________________
> extropy-chat mailing list
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat
>
> _______________________________________________
> extropy-chat mailing list
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/attachments/20201205/d65ba6f8/attachment-0001.htm>