[ExI] hiccups

[William Flynn Wallace]

You are right, of course.  It often doesn't help when you are not only
smarter but more knowledgeable (or vice versa).  I always say something
like "I know you can't keep up on everything, but I found that........."
Whether this mollifies them I dunno.   I do try.  But the fact is that you
and I and probably most of our group are smarter than the average
physicians.   I do sympathize with their inability to keep up with their
fields and see dozens or scores of patients a week (and my doctor is often
complaining about the paperwork he has to do, esp. with Medicare patients,
which is why I have had trouble at times getting a doctor to accept me - I
have been turned down, and in one instance, kicked out.)  bill w

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 11:25 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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> *Cc:* William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] hiccups
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> >…I cited a bunch of stuff I found on WebMD this morning to a doctor …
> she fussed at me for using Google …
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> BillW, I can explain what happened there I think.  It wasn’t your fault,
> you did nothing wrong.  You were the victim of misbehavior of her other
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> Imagine your doctor, so weary of patients who want to play doctor by going
> online and finding all the goofy stuff out there, not knowing the
> difference between Mayo Clinic and mayonnaise (not you BillW (but think of
> what doctor hears every day from patients who saw ads on TV for this
> medication or that medication (which should be illegal in itself (BillW,
> her reaction wasn’t your fault (she was perhaps pre-pissed by her previous
> patient who wanted a toenail fungus medication as a prophylactic for the
> common cold (hey, they saw it on TV (and the actor pushing that medication
> saved many patients on ER.)))))))  That isn’t your fault, me lad, and
> really it isn’t hers either.
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> This is compounded by another problem I present to my own doctor: when a
> patient has a particular obscure condition or disease, that patient studies
> up on every aspect of that condition or disease and in that one very narrow
> area, that patient damn well does know more about that one area than her
> doctor.  This is not the doctor’s fault: there are thousands of common
> diseases, which the beleaguered doctor is required to master.  If a patient
> has nothing to do but learn about one of them, well sure.  In some ways a
> smart patient is a bigger headache for a doctor than a dumb one.
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> I am guilty: I have read about ivermectin as a possible medication to use
> for covid.  The medical community generally says it doesn’t work, or that
> we can’t prove that it helps.  There is not universal consensus on this, as
> a few studies suggest that it does help.  Depending on the patient,
> ivermectin has few downsides.  More specifically: the downside isn’t that
> far down there for most patients.  I don’t see why not try it if one can
> get one’s doctor to write a prescription (or one can buy it by other means
> (it’s a hell of a note when it is legal to buy dope but not prescription
> meds (which causes people to buy ivermectin from one veterinarian.)))  Note
> that I am not handing out medical advice, which is illegal.  Henry,
> disregard the above please.  I ain’t a doctor, don’t even play one on TV.
> Ivermectin is for one’s pet aardvark or pangolin should one’s pet aardvark
> or pangolin develop covid.
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