[ExI] Protest

[William Flynn Wallace]

Thanks, Keith.  Swapping women to avoid the interbreeding problem has
fascinated me.  Did they really know what they were doing?  That close kin
breeding led to increased deformity?    I suppose they did know.  There
must have been a lot of males in puppy love who saw their darling girl go
to another tribe.  I also seem to recall that some males went too.  Very
hazy memory:  some of the men were criminals that were accepted into the
other tribe as slaves in exchange for goods.

bill w


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 2:04 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can we agree that for a long time humans existed as tribes?  Good.  Then
> you have tribalism - your tribe is right about everything.  The neighboring
> tribe is a bunch of robbers and rapists etc.  A person with different
> clothes, face paint etc. was one to fear.
>
> Bill, you have most of it, but you miss the fact that *most of the
> time*, your tribe swapped women with the neighboring tribe.
>
> > This gave rise to xenophobia - in the genes I assume.  So humans
> discriminate against anyone different,
>
> You are right that it is in the genes (what isn't?) but xenophobia
> buildup typically follows a current or pending resource crisis.
> Besides an evolved trait to xenophobia, there is a behavioral switch
> flipped by the resource crisis, or in more modern terms falling income
> per capita.  The sequence in the tribal era was resource crisis ->
> xenophobia -> to war.  The war reduced the population which solved the
> resource crisis until the population built up and another resource
> crisis came along.  Rinse, repeat for a million years.
>
> > Not like us - that's the motto.  It can be skin color or just anything.
>
> Yep. Holocaust, Rwanda, Cambodia for recent examples.
>
> > And we still do it-  by race, by religion, by nationality and so on.
>
> It is possible to keep the whole sequence turned off.  Steady or
> rising income per capita will keep these stone-age traits switched
> off.  Birth control is essential.  Not that the population cannot
> rise, it just needs to rise slower than economic growth.
>
> That's why the IRA went out of business.
>
> Keith
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