[ExI] shining example and COVID-19 (John Clark)
William Flynn Wallace
foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 24 21:32:22 UTC 2020
Wait, what? If everyone can tweak themselves--and we're not just talking
appearance--what makes you think everyone's going to choose the same
"ideal" form? Everyone has their own preferences Dave
How could there be any competition among people? If there were still jobs
done by 'humans' then if they wanted someone to do matrix algebra you'd
just change your code to enable that ability. Of course the true computers
would likely be doing that.
So are we envisioning a life of play while AIs run the planet? I keep
coming back to reproduction. Evolution is a game with reproduction as the
goal. How does that fit in with uploaded people?
I can also see a role for psychologists and programmers. They would help
the uploaded person decide on what he wanted to be and the programmers
would achieve that. I just have not thought about this very much and so my
ideas are likely to be primitive.
As for nanobots, isn't it more likely to be manufactured viruses and
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:26 PM Dave Sill via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:51 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> What about what a person is without augmentations? If you get uploaded
>> you are just a long string of code, right?
> You'd be, in one sense, a combination of code and data. That's what an
> outside observer would "see". Inside the simulation you could be whatever
> the simulation allowed. You could adjust your appearance as desired: tall,
> short, thin, fat, male, female, hermaphrodite, human, dog, amoeba,
> incorporeal, ..., essentially unlimited, but the simulation would probably
> have to impose reasonable limits.
>> So you can be anything you want to be - just change the code. Now everyone
>> is the same - the best code can do.
> Wait, what? If everyone can tweak themselves--and we're not just talking
> appearance--what makes you think everyone's going to choose the same
> "ideal" form? Everyone has their own preferences.
>> What is the point of that? You are just a computer that is no better and
>> no worse than any other computer.
> No, no, no... you don't become a computer, you become an entity run by a
>> There is nothing distinctive about you that cannot be duplicated by
>> some one else.
> Well, there could well be rules against copying what others do: e.g.,
> copyright and anti-fraud laws, simulation rules that you agree to before
> your simulation is instantiated, etc.
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