[ExI] kruger dunning again

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon May 11 20:15:03 UTC 2020


Some things you hear but you don't listen to.  Some things you read and
have used thousands of times but don't really understand.  Example:  how
many of you know the two words that make up the contraction 'won't'??
 bill w

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:43 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *Darin Sunley via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] kruger dunning again
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> >…A huge amount of American grassroots political rhetoric makes enormously
> more sense when you realize that a significant number of lower-income
> Americans actually genuinely believe that the billionaire class,
> collectively, has enough money to give American citizen tens of thousands
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> >…This was made obvious a few months ago when a newscaster overestimated
> Bloomberg's campaign spending (or underestimated the American population,
> or both) by 2 or 3 orders of magnitude, and it went unnoticed by the
> overwhelming majority of the media class, and their audience.
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> >…If you genuinely believe that, then yes, it follows without a lot of
> mental gymnastics that the giga-rich /actually are/ reptilians in human
> skin [or may as well be] playing games with the lives of billions for
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> >…Innumeracy may be the root, if not of all evil, at least of all
> discontent… Darin
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> Hi Darin your theory holds up, with the exception of:
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> … a significant number of lower-income Americans actually genuinely
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> Neither the lead anchor at NBC News Brian Williams and the NY Times
> editorial board member Mara Gray are lower-income Americans.  It would be
> difficult to find people with income so low they could make this six orders
> of magnitude error, present it with such sincere gravitas and not realize
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> https://twitter.com/i/status/1235816570602975233
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> They kept the joke alive, with a warning to the viewer:  The following
> media includes potentially sensitive content.
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> Oh mercy, sensitive content!  Flee to safe space, immediately!
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> These are the people responsible for shaping the news narrative.  OK then.
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> Wait, do let me retract, that is unjustified generalization.  Not all news
> people are this dumb.  Clearly these two are, and the camera crew, the
> lighting crew, the producers, all missed this enormous flub.
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> We did this to ourselves, with the language.  Having rhyming words for our
> big numbers was a mistake.  The guy (don’t recall the name) who won
> California’s nomination to run for POTUS often conflated “millionehs and
> billionehs” as if they were the same thing.  These are two very different
> things.  Google street view, Santa Clara County, there you will see
> enormous smeared-out residential neighborhoods, ordinary suburban
> dwellings, mow the lawn in ten minutes, your car stretches from the garage
> door to the sidewalk, just ordinary proletariat dwellings.  Then go into
> Zillow and note that all these homes are worth over a million dollars, none
> of them even close to a billion.
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> Here’s a screen shot from Sunnyvale, which isn’t even the
> trendy-spendy-high-endy part of the valley, just pokey little Sunnyvale.
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> California nominated a guy who demonized them.  He never had anything good
> to say about millionehs and billionehs.  Perhaps the locals failed to
> realize everyone who owns any of these tightly-packed homes likely has a
> net worth over a million dollars.
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