[ExI] stoopid kwestchyuns
Stuart LaForge
avant at sollegro.com
Wed Nov 11 14:52:07 UTC 2020
Quoting Darin Sunley:
> Yes. they are different, and different in a structurally interesting way.
> An omniscient agent contains a structure that is homeomorphic with its
> entire containing universe [possibly except for itself, depending on what
> you mean by omniscience],
I mean omniscience literally as "knowing all", which by definition
includes the self and all possible pasts, presents, and futures.
Although I do agree you run into Russell's self-containing-set
paradoxes in that direction.
> and mechanisms for continuously updating that
> structure to keep it in correspondence with the entire containing universe.
What you seem to be describing here is a quasi-omniscient agent. One
that knows the present state of the universe but does not know the
past or future states. Why would a truly omniscient agent need to
update? It already knows all by definition doesn't it? That includes
itself and all possible pasts and futures. Since an omniscient agent
already knows all, then it is impossible for an omniscient agent to be
informed by anything. Thus all communication directed toward an
omniscient agent contains zero Shannon entropy/information relative to
that agent. Thus calling into question whether an omniscient agent has
any agency at all.
As Will Steinberg observed it does seem to reduce to the question of
free will: If God already knows everything that is going to happen
including his own future decisions and their outcomes, then does God
have free will?
> A totally ignorant agent contains no internal structures with any
> correspondence to the structure of the containing universe except by
> chance, and no mechanisms to synchronize any part of that structure with
> any part of the surrounding universe.
Are not the various physical and chemical equilibria examples of
synchronization with the surrounding universe? What about quantum
entanglement?
Stuart LaForge
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