[ExI] time once again for nukes

[Adrian Tymes]

You assume that the utilities are advocating for any solution, by
advocating against other solutions.

Instead, it largely seems that those who advocate against certain
solutions, are just advocating against certain solutions.  In most cases,
they are either against or neutral on everything, with no logical extension
to consequences.

"If we just get rid of coal, gas, oil, wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal,
hydro, biomass, and (insert any and every specific category here), we'll
still have power from somewhere."

Except they usually omit whichever of those they actually back.  For
instance, coal power might not be defensible on its own, except if you ban
literally every other source then it's the only thing left.

This is one tactic used to resist shifting away from the existing coal
plants: if anything that doesn't exist in large quantity yet, can be kept
from existing in large quantity, then whatever is out there now will just
have to continue to be out there, regardless of however better any given
change might be.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 8:17 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> When I started my career in aerospace engineering in the 80s, there are a
> lotta guys whose engineering degree was in nuclear engineering, which was a
> very rigorous course, a hybrid of mechanical engineering and physics.  The
> US chose to not go down that road, so the nuke engineers had to go to
> Europe or go into alternative fields.  They made excellent aerospace guys.
> Every one of the nuke guys I ever worked with was top notch.  They took a
> risk and lost in a sense: they never were able to do the work they trained
> for in undergrad and some had graduate degrees in the field.
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> Washington state went with wind power.  If you go along the Columbia
> Gorge, you can see it.  This you can do without leaving your chair, thanks
> to Google maps street view.  Set your guy anywhere along the gorge either
> side, look around, you can see them.
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> Now the public utilities people are saying no more wind:
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> https://www.bentonpud.org/getattachment/Safety-Education/Safety/Wind/Wind-Power-and-Clean-Energy-Policy-Perspectives-Report-Benton-PUD-FINAL-July-14-2020-(1).PDF.aspx?lang=en-US
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> Well, OK they aughta know.  I notice they aren’t rushing to go solar
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> If we have a national commitment to reduce carbon emissions and we know
> that intermittent sources have their limitations, then we are left with…
> nuclear power.  The guys who took nuke engineering degrees in the 80s are
> now approaching retirement in many cases, too late to start in the field
> for the first time.  So… I would argue that now is a good time for students
> to look for a nuclear engineering program.  It’s an idea whose time has
> come and gone and is coming again.
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> spike
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