[ExI] The Futurism of Elon Musk

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 15:06:17 UTC 2020


So, Spike, rather than use your generator, why not put solar cells on your
roof?  You are a cheapo like me and in the long run you will save $$$.
Probably could not run a compressor?

bill w

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:39 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *John Grigg via extropy-chat
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 8, 2020 6:12 AM
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> *Cc:* John Grigg <possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] The Futurism of Elon Musk
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> "Thanks John and Adrian!  John good to see you back, me lad."
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> >…Spike, thank you!  : )  I thought that YT video would catch the interest
> of the list members. I suppose the young intellectual, Tom Nicholas, is a
> bit of a European socialist at heart, to dare criticise the darling of our
> transhumanist hearts, Elon Musk! Lol
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> >…I was thrown initially by your usage of the term "coal burners." But
> yes, the power for those electric cars has to come from somewhere. I was
> recently on an online forum when a racist fellow said he would never date a
> woman who was a "coal burner." I brought down the house by saying I
> understood where he was coming from, and that I also would never date a
> woman who was not into renewable energy resources such as solar,
> geo-thermal and wind.  ; )
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> John
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> Hi John,
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> I was not aware of the British use of the term until it was pointed out to
> me by a kindhearted British lad hoping to save me from embarrassment, and
> have since decided to come up with an alternative which is really more
> descriptive anyway, the hotwatt, since the Tesla is a racy little rig with
> no rods.
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> The Brits have a funny way of speaking, which is why I had to stop
> referring to my own favorite distraction of amateur entomology as buggery.
> I am told they have an alternative definition.
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> On the other hand… if we nuke greens get our way, then the Teslas can be
> referred to as atom burners.
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> Regarding the power shortages: California bet long on renewable energy.
> Hot dry breezy day, skies are clear, solar farms and wind farms churn out
> the watts, air conditioners grind away in the city, life is good, Ja?
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> Wellll… we have standards for power line capacity, but under certain
> conditions they can temporarily overdrive them, and do, such as on a clear
> sunny breezy day for instance.  This combines crackly powerlines, strained
> transmission towers and smoking hot transformers, everything that moves
> power from out there to in here, with… ideal conditions for wildfire.
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> Result: forests burn, homes burn, lives are lost.  Power company sued.
> Power company agrees to not overdrive those lines and transformers, and
> suddenly….we no longer lack renewable power, we have too much of it, at
> least under optimal conditions for renewable power generation.
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> So… while one faction of green is demanding more renewable energy, another
> faction is demanding less of it.
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> We nuke greens don’t have all the answers either: any nuke plant needs to
> be way to heck and gone away from population centers (the faceless masses
> won’t even allow hyperbolic cooling towers even for a natural gas peaker
> plant) so that sets up reliance on long transmission lines, which sometimes
> cause fires, and those fires start under conditions which transform them
> from an inconvenience into a horrifying nightmare.
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> Meanwhile… people come from all over the planet to live in Nerdvana where
> we have all this cool high-tech gee-whiz while we struggle to supply the
> electrical power to run it.
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