[ExI] Free will was: Everett worlds

[William Flynn Wallace]

To start:  Mississippi and California could hardly be more different.  In
the Delta, our poorest place, there is no access of any kind to the web
(and 50 miles to the nearest hospital, and many of those are closing - and
the stupid Repubs won't expand Medicare - has cost of 8 billions dollars so
far).  So the state would have to pay the cost of extending the cables etc.
to the little towns and crossroads.  And of course there is no money for
that, for prison reform (the feds will sue and take over and make us do
that just like they did in Alabama in 1973 to the chagrin of George Wallace
- no kin!)

So if internet access is treated as a right then the feds will have to step
in and help poor states like Mississippi.

bill w

On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 8:34 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> > *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
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> >…OK, I give up.  You are taking this seriously and I am not (exceptions
> at the end).  The point is not what is affordable, doable, ,or anything
> else.  It's what people think they are entitled to and do not have now.  A
> high school teacher I know says that the kids now have an incredible sense
> of entitlement - Uncle Sam will provide…
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> They have a right to feel entitled to it if they wish.  But at some point
> they may suddenly realize that Uncle Sam isn’t providing.
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> >…One serious example:  the right to say anything they want to anyone
> they want without consequences…
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> When I encounter that, I point out that it is true: they can say whatever
> they want without legal consequences from the Federal government.  Your
> employer may fire your ass, the locals may harass until you leave town, but
> the Fed will stand down on that.
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> >…Another serious example:  should internet access  be a right?
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> We treat it as one.  I don’t recall having to ask anyone for access to
> that.  We even give students a free connection (it is limited in speed and
> scope.)
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> >…It is getting hard to function without it.  It could be another form of
> welfare.  "provide for the general welfare" - wow.  That can mean just
> about anything.  bill w
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> Sure can.  I can definitely see giving away internet and food.  Around
> here we are doing that now: every grocery store checkout machine offers the
> prole an opportunity to donate to the food bank.  I kick in ten bucks each
> time.  It isn’t much but evidently it is working: volunteers box it up and
> hand it out twice a week.
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> I have been involved with the food bank for years because of scouts.  That
> is one community service that is perfectly safe, there is no one
> complaining it is taking away jobs, it works great.  Welfare is “eat
> well.”  Promoting the general welfare is seeing that people eat.  So… OK,
> give food to the hungry.  Don’t give em money, give em food.  We can afford
> that, states can run it if they want, counties, cities can run it.  It
> wouldn’t really compete with those offering minimum wage jobs, it wouldn’t
> destroy minimum wage earner’s ambition.
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> Internet is a great deal: it doesn’t cost much to give away, and the
> educational resources available there are unlimited, mind-blowing.  You
> should wander over to Khan Academy and look that over.  What you and I
> wouldn’t give to have something like that in our own misspent youth, oh
> mercy.  With all that, we wouldn’t even really need school, or if so, for
> nothing more than a great place to scope out the girls.
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