[ExI] Fwd: Space governance

[John Grigg]

 "A polis can be anywhere, but they are all on Earth (with backups
scattered about the System).  Presumably they enjoy proximity for speed
of communication; and on Earth they have protection against solar
weather, I guess."

> Anton, would you please set your replies up so they don't CC me as
> well as posting to the list? I don't need both. Thanks.

"Ah, old habit.  I'm on a couple of other lists -- one of which was, for
a bunch of years, the most voluminous of my collective penpals -- that
(a) do not set Reply-To and (b) do not send to addresses listed
explicitly in the headers, so the redundancy is harmless."

Anton, I have a feeling you may outlive all of us, due to your habit of
automatically making back-up copies! Well, at least if mind downloading
happens within your lifetime... Lol

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:41 PM Anton Sherwood via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 2020-9-27 00:10, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
> > I'm envisaging a situation where your mind is running in a substrate
> > that only occupies a few cubic millimetres, and needs substantially
> > less energy than a human brain (this is not a superintelligent mind,
> > just human-equivalent). Whether or not you also control robotic
> > bodies (which could be any size), you'll still have access to virtual
> > worlds, so you'd be able to live in both the 'physical world' and
> > whatever virtual worlds you choose, in whatever combinations you
> > choose (e.g. various flavours of augmented reality, etc.
>
> We're on the same page, but: if we make a bar-chart of people according
> to how they divide their time between the virtual and the physical, I
> imagine it as lower in the middle and I guess you imagine the opposite.
>
> > You could really blur the distinction between 'virtual' and 'real'
> > until it was pretty much meaningless. [....])
>
> Somehow that gives me the creeps.  Can the uncanny valley effect be
> triggered by imagining an abstraction??
>
> > That awful film "Valerian and the city of a thousand planets" gives a
> > partial glimpse of what I mean).
>
> Too bad I won't see it, then :/
>
> > I expect this to be true of all uploads, whether they stay on earth
> > or not.
>
> In Egan's «Diaspora» there is a sharp division between the fleshers,
> living on Earth as moderately enhanced mammals; the "polis citizens",
> software on big computers buried in permafrost; and the "gleisner
> robots", who are mobile and live on the Moon and beyond.
> A former gleisner, who immigrated to the polis that is the principal
> setting, shows a polis native something interesting in sixteen
> dimensions.  The native asks, "How did a gleisner conceive of this?"
> The immigrant replies, "Why do you think I immigrated?"
>
> A polis can be anywhere, but they are all on Earth (with backups
> scattered about the System).  Presumably they enjoy proximity for speed
> of communication; and on Earth they have protection against solar
> weather, I guess.
>
> > Anton, would you please set your replies up so they don't CC me as
> > well as posting to the list? I don't need both. Thanks.
>
> Ah, old habit.  I'm on a couple of other lists -- one of which was, for
> a bunch of years, the most voluminous of my collective penpals -- that
> (a) do not set Reply-To and (b) do not send to addresses listed
> explicitly in the headers, so the redundancy is harmless.
>
> --
> *\\*  Anton Sherwood  *\\*  www.bendwavy.org
>
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