[ExI] new covid case rates

Wed Apr 7 02:16:07 UTC 2021

From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of John Grigg via extropy-chat
Subject: Re: [ExI] new covid case rates

>…When will President Biden create a federal mandate to have one set of strict rules for the entire nation?

Never.  He would if he could.  He doesn’t have the authority to do that.  But Biden doesn’t create federal law.  Congress does.  Then the Supreme Court has to buy in.  So… to answer your question: never.

>…This long-standing piecemeal approach to containing the virus in America is ridiculous!

But trying to do anything at the national level is far more ridiculous and dangerous.  There are no possible rules that would work for both New York City and Wyoming.

As it turns out, that is a big enough challenge for states.  Well, too big actually.  California tried, but their attempt was mostly a failure.  They passed the authority on down to the counties.  That kinda approach mostly failed too.  For instance, if county rules are ignored, what then?  Consider the Tesla factory up the street.  The county demanded Musk shut it down.  He opened it up.  They weren’t going to risk pissing off their money cow.  So… the county backed down.  Elon kept turning out electric cars. 

At the county level, who has the authority to do anything to flagrant violators?  The sheriff?  She can’t enforce that which isn’t a law.  Only the state legislature can pass laws.  They didn’t.  So… there was no law, and still isn’t.

Law isn’t the way to go against disease in times when existing law isn’t being enforced. 

>I suppose the hope is that when enough people are vaccinated, that the pandemic will finally go away, or at least be ignorable.  John

We developed a bunch of new technologies to create vaccines and distribute them.  I got my vaccination today.  No side effects yet.

spike

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:09 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:

Not trying to start a discussion, but the data on this link is interesting.....

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:00 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:

From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> > On Behalf Of William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
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Subject: Re: [ExI] new covid case rates

>…I seem to recall an aerial photo you sent me with the prices of the houses on it.  I assumed that it was an area you lived in - correct?  If so you are definitely urban.  Rural houses have much more distance between houses.  This assumes that I know something about urban sociology (but I don't)  bill w

Ja.  If here is urban, then most of the US population is urban.  What we need is to somehow divide the population down the middle, if that can be done.  But even that is very ambiguous, because people travel.  It isn’t the housing density that matters as much as the population density in the houses.  Many urbanites seldom go outdoors, but many rural dwellers travel every day to the city.

spike

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