[ExI] 'Copyright' (Was: Re: to my fellow renaissance life forms)

Henry Rivera hrivera at alumni.virginia.edu
Thu Aug 19 23:44:51 UTC 2021

 Regarding the subject of instrumental tracks to rap over, as Guru (Gifted
Unlimited Rhymes Universal) put it, “Rap started with, what they did which
was so ingenious, was to create a whole form of urban style music from just
two turntables and two records and a microphone.” They looped a few seconds
of breakdowns in records before samplers were around to do that.

Regarding examples of intelligent rap, see by KRS-One:

>From his bio:
KRS, an acronym for ““Knowledge Reigning Supreme”, has been called the
“conscience of Hip Hop” (Rolling Stone), “the greatest live emcee ever”
(The Source), the “spokesperson for Hip Hop” (Wall Street Journal), “master
teacher” (Zulu Nation) and the “son of Hip Hop” (Kool DJ Herc). With 20
published albums to his credit and his numerous appearances with other
artists, KRS-One is believed to have written the most rhymes in Hip Hop’s
history. In the 1990s as “hip-hop” grew more and more commercialized and
corporate, it was KRS-One that openly rejected such cultural exploitation
and materialism grounding Hip Hop in its original principles of peace,
love, unity and safely having fun. Teaching everything from self-creation
to stopping violence; from vegetarianism to transcendental meditation, from
the establishment of Hip Hop Appreciation Week (every third week in May),
to establishing Hip Hop as an international culture at the United Nations
(2001), KRS-One has single-handedly held the history and original arts of
Hip Hop together now for over two decades.

In addition to lecturing at over 500 universities in the United States and
publishing three ground-breaking books; “The Science of Rap” (1995),
“Ruminations” (2003), and the Gospel of Hip Hop” (2009), KRS-One has also
established the Stop The Violence Movement (1989), influenced the creation
of the “West-Coast All-Stars’ anti-gang anthem “We’re All In The Same Gang”
(1990), warned the Hip Hop community against giving up their humanity for
technological advancement (H. E. A. L.—Human Education Against Lies-1991),
and has established the Temple of Hip Hop for the spiritual exploration of
Hip Hop’s culture (1996). It was KRS-One who first argued that “rap is
something we do; Hip Hop is something we live” and introduced the “I am Hip
Hop” philosophy in 1994 which Black Entertainment Television uses as the
title of their Hip Hop Lifetime Achievement Award today. Without question,
KRS-One has been the loudest voice for the actual preservation and
expansion of original Hip Hop worldwide.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 6:31 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>  How many times have you heard second and third albums from promising
> bands, and thought "Not nearly as good as the first one"? Why do you
> think that is?  ben
> I have read several things about hot streaks in various sports.  Or
> sometimes they call it momentum.  Statistical studies show that there is no
> such thing as momentum or hot streaks.  Consider how a first album gets
> published:  only the very best songs are included - nothing held back.
> They want to take advantage of the popularity of the album but it takes
> time to come up with more great songs.  Same thing in novels:  second one
> not as good (like the next one after Ready Player One).
> Some of these effects fit regression to the mean as well.    bill w
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:25 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> SR Ballard wrote:
>> > I like their work, I give them money. It’s not complicated.
>> >
>> > I will often buy a physical or electronic copy of a book I have
>> > pirated, if I liked it. I buy merch from bands, pay for concert
>> > tickets, buy tracks. I donate money to streamers...
>> >
>> > Piracy is no different than borrowing your friend’s book/CD/movie. If
>> > you enjoyed it, you’ll get a legit copy for yourself.
>> >
>> > SR Ballard
>> Thank you, a lone sane voice among the brainwashed (so it seems to me,
>> anyway).
>> Ask Charlie Stross how he makes a living when he routinely puts his
>> fiction on the web for anyone to read without any strings whatsoever.
>> My experience and opinion, is the same as SRB's. I have paid-for hard
>> copies of several works of fiction (by Stross and others) that I first
>> read for free. I decided that I wanted to give these guys money to
>> encourage them to keep writing the stuff that I like. I have also read
>> for free, stuff that I didn't like so much, and declined to give those
>> authors money, not wanting to encourage them further.
>> What could be fairer than that?
>> The people who profit the most from the current system are the
>> middle-men. The publishers and big media corporations. You know, the
>> ones who lobby for these crazy copyright laws that benefit no-one but
>> them. The sooner these parasites wither away, the better.
>> Regarding the notion that amateur musicians create nothing but
>> poor-quality pap, consider what the word 'amateur' actually means. And
>> think about who is more likely to produce good music: Someone who does
>> it for love, or someone who does it to pay the rent? How many times have
>> you heard second and third albums from promising bands, and thought "Not
>> nearly as good as the first one"? Why do you think that is?
>> This is one area where I'm quite dismayed to see extropians so deeply
>> entrenched in the same mental rut as the vast majority of people. We're
>> supposed to be good at thinking outside the box and looking to a better
>> future, not enthusiastically toeing the corporate party line that's
>> threatening to drag us down into the kind of dystopia that Cory Doctorow
>> etc. keep trying to alert us all to.
>> Ben
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