[ExI] Immaculate Election

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Jan 14 15:08:57 UTC 2021


 Spike, you can put a large percentage of human behavior under these three
words:  sex, aggression, money.   The free love group you mentioned was
basically authoritarian:  it told women what they must do with their
bodies.  Know of any libertarian hippie groups?  bill w

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 8:36 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> Also, true socialism has never been tried.
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> >…I'll bet it has.  Hippie communities in the '60s - but I am just
> guessing.  Also guessing that it didn't last for long, like free love
> without jealousy.  HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!  bill w
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> True socialism has been tried: it still ran out of other people’s money.
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> If you go to descriptions of experimental communes, it sounds like a
> common problem focus was the whole shared-mate business.  Communes would
> kinda work fairly OK if they didn’t go with that feature: people would
> share the farming tools and so on, but sharing mates just went to hard
> against the grain of our nature so long established in humans by social
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> T.C. Boyle’s take on communes in his Drop City novel has the women
> grumbling constantly about the whole free-love business, which was firmly
> insisted upon by the men who organized the whole arrangement.  Everything
> must be shared, and women’s bodies were included in the everything.  The
> women tolerated it (mostly unhappily) until one of the daughters came of
> age (15) and the men eagerly expected her to join the whole free love
> scene, at which time her mother said adios amigos, took her teenage
> daughter and rejoined mainstream society.  The rest of them went to Alaska,
> where things went badly.
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