[ExI] Can philosophers produce scientific knowledge?

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 06:56, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Hi Stathis,
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:03 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Functionalism is a logical position, that IF the correct substitution
>> could be made THEN redness would be preserved.
>>
>
> Despite the problems with this you continually ignore, even IF some
> correct substitution could be made, you also seem to always insist that
> everyone must accept that this IF condition will be true.  This is
> clearly simply a prediction about nature, which
> experimentation could clearly falsify, the counter prediction being that
> nobody will every be able to find any kind of substrate independent
> function which could be substituted for an elemental redness substrate out
> of which consciousness is composed and depends on.
>
> And in response to this you always seem to reply that functionally it must
> "logically" be possible, but this "logical" claim is also dependent on
> what Steven Lehar refers to as the current "Neuron Doctrine" which assumes
> neurons are:
>
> "quasi-independent computational elements that communicate by electrical
> signals propagated down axons and collaterals and transmitted to other
> neurons through chemical synapses."
>
> this is at 1:37 in where he also points out:
> *"This Paradigm is Wrong!"*
> and then he points out why.
>

Actually my gold example is too weak, since it is possible that when you
add 100 kg and 100 kg of gold together some new physical effect kicks in
and the result weighs 201 kg, which we wouldn’t know about until we did the
experiment. So to improve the analogy, I would have to specify that no as
yet unknown physical laws are at play.

> --
Stathis Papaioannou
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