[ExI] Big Media is turning into Big Brother

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 9 23:48:53 UTC 2021

Outside of some form of torture, I don't know what 'totalitarian
techniques' are.  Please explain.  There are many forms of persuasion and
all of them can be used to persuade people, though there are none which do
so without the conscious participation of the individual.  I am suggesting
that techniques are just tools which can be used for good or evil.

It may be that some media companies view changing attitudes 'social
engineering' as a good thing.  Perhaps even a duty.

bill w

bill w

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 2:29 PM BillK via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 16:40, spike jones via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> > ...> On Behalf Of BillK via extropy-chat
> > >...If you notice that it is propaganda, then it has failed...
> >
> > Do let me assure you sir, we noticed.  Our own mainstream news media
> spew propaganda continuously.
> >
> > >...Quote:
> > >...In the last, and perhaps the most delightful, of these selections,
> Orwell reminds us of how post-Civil War monopoly capitalism tarnished the
> old, untrammeled, egalitarian America of the 1840s. But the article is no
> polemic; it is, rather, an evocation of the America of George Orwell’s
> fondest imaginings—the free and buoyant land that is more symbol than
> geographic or political fact but is none the less real for that.
> > —Richard F. Snow
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > >...BillK
> > ____________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Ja, the US civil war has been interpreted a number of ways.  The
> northern US states in those days were deep into the industrial revolution.
> Capitalism ruled with a vengeance.  He who has the most money is the boss.
> >
> > The agrarian south still had the social constructs of nobility: a few
> families owned most of the farmable land, which was the primary source of
> production in those states not yet heavily industrialized.
> >
> > In that sense, the notion of slavery and states' rights created kind of
> proxy war which was really capitalism vs socialism.  Capitalists won that
> struggle.
> >
> > spike
> > _______________________________________________
> Orwell was a Socialist who believed in justice and liberty.
> 1984 was written about the horrors of a totalitarian state.
> Interesting that the US corporate capitalists are now eagerly
> using those same totalitarian techniques.
> BillK
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