[ExI] Fwd: Fwd: Is Artificial Life Conscious?

[Jason Resch]

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From: Jason Resch <jasonresch at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ExI] Fwd: Is Artificial Life Conscious?
To: <col.hales at gmail.com>




On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:09 PM Colin Hales <col.hales at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:01 PM Jason Resch <jasonresch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:54 PM Colin Hales via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:02 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>>> ### I would be very surprised if the functional capabilities of brains
>>>> turned out to be impossible to replicate in digital, Turing-equivalent
>>>> computers.
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>>>> Rafal
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>>> Wouldn't it be great to actually do some empirical science to find out?
>>> Like start acting as if it was true (impossible) and start building
>>> artificial inorganic brain  tissue that is NOT a general-purpose computer
>>> (that artificial tissue would also have functionally relevant EEG and MEG),
>>> and then comparing its behaviour with the general-purpose computer's model
>>> of of the same tissue?
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>> It looks like this work is in the process of being done:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldXEuUVkDuw
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>> Jason
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> Not even close. Can you see what just happened? There's a general purpose
> computer and software involved.  The game ends right there! Did you not
> read what I wrote.
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> To build an artificial version of natural tissue is not to simulate
> anything. You build the EM field system literally. The use of computers is
> a design tool, not the end product. The chips that do this would be 3D and
> have an EEG and MEG like brain tissue. No computers. No software.
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> The game has changed!
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What if the computer simulation includes the EM fields?

Would that be sufficient to make a  conscious program?

If not, do you predict the computer simulation including the EM fields
would diverge in behavior from the actual brain?

Jason
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