[ExI] gaming the system

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 30 16:43:53 UTC 2022


Adrian, I am pretty sure that if you asked an English prof today what
poetry is, he would shake his head and say that it's whatever the author
wants to call it.  bill w

On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:01 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> The word "poetry",
> used abundantly,
> may oft be applied
> where rhyme is denied,
> deliberately.
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 7:35 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> You mean there's modern poetry with rhyme and rhythm?  I quit taking the
>> New Yorker and ATlantic Monthly partly because of the horrible poetry they
>> publish - no rhymes, no meter, obscure in the meaning department.  Of
>> course you have 'lower level' stuff, like Breathe that I circulated, that
>> the magazines would never print - literary profs would burn the issue in
>> public as a protest against sensible poetry.  bill w
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 8:51 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>> Regarding Musk’s notion of making the Twitter content filters public led
>>> to the observation that this could make it easier to game the system.
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>>> That rattled around in my brain like a golf ball in a 55 gallon drum.  I
>>> came up with an idea (as is my wont (or one of my many wonts (such as
>>> wanting excuses to use the term wont (they call me the wont-monster.))))
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>>> An earlier observation was the comedy gold provided by the Babylon Bee,
>>> which made a skit of an overly sensitive Twitter employee freaking about
>>> Musk buying Twitter.  Then Twitter played along with the gag by slapping a
>>> sensitive content label on a tweet about sensitive Twitter employees
>>> (referring to her (and comically self-referencing the Twitter employee who
>>> chose the label.))  But it isn’t entirely clear the label was Twitter
>>> playing along with the gag.  It might be that software did that, and that
>>> their software is flawed.  I chose the more charitable interpretation
>>> (Twitter was making fun of itself.)
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>>> Regarding Musk’s notion of making that software public (not defeating
>>> it, just making it public domain): that would allow users to download the
>>> filter, run a test case on an edgy post, shape it, edit it, rework it until
>>> it gets by without a warning.  So this would be a form of gaming the
>>> system, and could spawn an entirely new genre in a sense: how to creatively
>>> word a message in such a way as to communicate an idea around
>>> restrictions.  Gaming Twitter then becomes analogous to poetry in a way,
>>> where you say things with a rhyme and a rhythm, to communicate ideas in a
>>> framework of sorts.  Going around Twitter filters becomes modern poetry.
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>>> spike
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