[ExI] control of the narrative: was: RE: chinese fires, was:RE: book review

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Fri Dec 2 22:34:17 UTC 2022


Jeez Mr. Crow, you'd think someone on a science list would know what
omitted variable bias is...

Also look I know you're like 80 or something but I don't think it is hard
to understand what I said.  Black as an adjective is fine, black as a noun
is not.  Should I say it a third time or do you get it now

On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 4:52 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
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> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 3:30 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> Also whose morals are you referring to?  I think you are talking about
>> poor people in general.  The color of your skin doesn't change your morals
>> or behavior.   Your economic and living situation does.
>>
>
> Will, would you like to take a look at the statistics on unwed mothers,
> often very young, abortions?  Then tell me race does not matter.
>
> Prostitution beginning at age nine or so is rampant.  Look at the
> statistics.  I have known about black prostitution since the 50s, working
> with black men.  "Oh yeah, I am going to buy me something from her this
> weekend  They'll all do it, even the married ones."
> Children tell.  Children tell parents about what other children brag about
> on the playground, or even see.  It was a significantpart of white flight
> to suburbs and creating all white schools.
>
> I wish you were right, Will, and that skin color doesn't matter. But we
> are talking about different cultures here, and sexual mores are different
> and have been for a long time.  Ask a sociologist.  These things don't make
> the news for obvious reasons.  bill w
>
> Blacks - that is what I read they wanted - capitalization. Now it's back
> to blacks?  Will someone please take charge and tell me what's PC?  bill w
>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 4:22 PM Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Lol dude 'black' as an adjective is ok.  'Blacks' is not considered ok.
>>> You should say 'black people'.  Just letting you know
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 2:10 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will admit to forgetting to use 'Blacks'.  But you did it yourself
>>>> Will.  I do admit to some bias (NOT prejudice) against Blacks:  I strongly
>>>> condemn their morals, and I don't want to get any flak about welfare
>>>> causing men to abandon their lovers and children.  So if that makes me
>>>> racist, to that extent I am racist
>>>>
>>>> I deal with a lot of Blacks, mostly working for me.  I treat them like
>>>> friends.  I feed them, I let them in the house to use the bathroom, and so
>>>> on - I'll bet not a lot of white people in the South go that far.  bill w
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 12:59 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
>>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From what I have gathered, WFW William is one of those 'southern
>>>>> boomer' liberals whose heart seeks mostly in the right place but also says
>>>>> things like 'blacks' and generally doesn't know he is being implicitly or
>>>>> explicitly racist or racist-adjacent some of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I try to remind myself that much of this list is in the 60-80 age
>>>>> bracket.   It comes with the territory I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think he means to just point to the fact that intra-group murder
>>>>> rates are super high for poor black ghettoized city dwellers and that
>>>>> nobody seems to care, and that that is sad and fucked up, but the language
>>>>> is all bungled.
>>>>>
>>>>> WFW, correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 1:33 PM Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat <
>>>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 10:08 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>>>>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Four young people slain with a gun on the south side of Chicago,
>>>>>>> doesn't even make the news ever. spike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And why not?  No story there - just black gang members, in or out of
>>>>>>> prison, killing one another.  I suspect that data will show that killings
>>>>>>> other than domestic ones are overwhelmingly black and have no ideological
>>>>>>> agenda at all.  No news is not good news.  bill w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You give spike for being a goofy kind of narrow-view that irritates
>>>>>> you... then you make this commentary that has no other quality than to
>>>>>> value signal your racism?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next time you think to post such, don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There,  one of us said it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If nobody else corrects me for overstepping the bounds of etiquette,
>>>>>> you may assume we're all in agreement.
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