[ExI] music survey

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 17 17:43:46 UTC 2022

I liked the poem because of the content.  In fantasy and scifi there are
several writers who can write as  well as anyone - Card and Bujold for two.

Mozart may have set a record:  one of his night pieces ran to 14 minutes,
but because of repeats had only 6 minutes of original music.

I knew when I asked the question that I did not know how to ask the
question and some of you have helped me clarify it.    I will listen to
nearly every piece y'all have suggested  And want more.

New request:  I heard a group who played percussion instruments only years
ago (no vocals aside from the occasional yelling; cannot remember their
name).  If any of you are percussion lovers, please let me know the name of
a group you like.   bill w

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 8:53 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 3:29 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> I knew that there were a lot of genres.  To my extremely limited musical
> taste, there's classical and there's 'other', which I called pop.
> That’s fine if idiosyncratic. I mean it puts you at odds with ordinary
> usage, and it does lead to confusion. I would’ve made very different
> choices if I knew you simply meant ‘non-classical.’ For instance, I
> probably would’ve listed Polyphia and other recent ‘progressive’ or
> instrumental rock bands.
> (Non-classical is also a problematic term. Are Johann Strauss II waltzes
> classical or popular? I would classify them in the latter category, but
> perhaps they fit into both. This is kind of like high/low distinction in
> art generally, where there are plenty of artists that span the distinction,
> such as Shakespeare. SF (and just any ‘genre’ fiction) is almost almost
> classified as low art by critics and theorists and ignored. This has
> changed a little recently, though I still run into people under my age who
> presume SF, horror, mystery, etc. are not or can’t be serious art. And
> often the exceptions are reclassified as not genre writers. So, if someone
> like Cormack McCarthy writes a Western (which is like almost all of his
> work), they’re not seen as Westerns, but as literary fiction. In SF, Kurt
> Vonnegut gets welcomed by the literary establishment, but I bet it’ll be a
> few decades before the current crop of sophisticated SF writers are.
> Reminds me of how the Nobel was looked down upon because epic poetry was
> the obvious form of high art in narrative literature.)
> Katy Perry - one of the funniest things I ever saw:  one costume featured
> large lollipops affixed to her breasts.
> I wonder if part of her act is a sendup.  A satire.
> Jazz - I heard Dave Brubeck Quartet in concert in Hyannis Port in 1962.
> It turned out that Brubeck's is the only jazz I like (he was
> classically trained by Milhaud and wrote classical music).  I  do like some
> pre-1950 jazz.
> Many jazz artists are classically trained, even after Brubeck. Keith
> Jarrett, Chick Corea, Jan Garbarek, Wynton Marsalis, and Herbie Hancock all
> started with classical training. I wouldn’t make classical training the
> disideratum of playing great jazz, but, if that’s what you’re looking for,
> there’s them. ;)
> I did say no review, but I was lying.  In Dan's post he mentioned
> Sandstorm, so I heard it on Youtube.  Extremely annoying.  Also Astronomia
> - not as annoying but plenty annoying.
> Dance music, in general, tends to be like that. The Strauss waltzes come
> to mind and a lot of classical ballet music.
> By the way, I mentioned those two pieces to make a point. I wasn’t
> offering them as my favorites. Similarly for Katy Perry. I believe most
> people would agree Perry is pop and Darude and Tony Ivy are not pop — even
> though all three are ‘popular.’
> Is there a genre where nearly total repetitiveness is not present?  The
> songs varied only in the voice part - the background was totally
> repetitive.  I wonder at the musicians who play it.  I would be absolutely
> bored out of my mind, if anything was left of it after doing it for a few
> years.  More later.   bill w
> Kind of strange that your taste in poetry — well, based on that poem you
> shared here a few days ago — seems to be for sing songy (in other words,
> ‘nearly total repetitiveness’ in the meter) work. ;)
> Regards,
> Dan
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