[ExI] People often think their chatbot is alive

[Giovanni Santostasi]

The main issue regarding this affair is NOT really if LaMDA is conscious or
not, but rather:
1. Who decides if LaMDA (and similar advanced AI creation) is conscious?
Should the general public be involved given the possible history-changing
implications?
2. How do we decide if an entity (artificial or otherwise, for example, an
alien life form we may discover in the future) is conscious and it should
be considered a "person"?
3. What if the AI of a given complexity and sophistication, not to be
easily dismissed as a simple chatbot, claims to be aware and to be treated
as a person, should we do just that?

These questions are among the most profound and consequential questions
that humanity may ever deal with and they should be taken seriously. The
entire point of LaMDA story is that dealing with these questions is not
something that we can postpone to 100 years from now but something that is
relevant right now even if LaMDA turns out not to be quite conscious yet.
LaMDA may indeed become really conscious (a conclusion that requires
answering the above questions anyway) in the near future or some other AI
experiment may do that so it is a good idea to deal with these issues as
soon as possible.
Giovanni






On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> True, I agree, the discussion part is important.
> I just think it is also critically important to capture the results of
> such discussions, especially on things we agree on, what we disagree with,
> and  how many...  And how is all this understanding progressing?
> Discussions are lost, but if we capture the results, it moves everyone
> forward, ratcheting everyone up in our understanding.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:57 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 at 01:33, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > In my opinion, this kind of back and forth bleating and tweeting, going
>> on all over the internet, is a complete waste of time, and in fact makes
>> everyone more clueless, more polarized, and less interested in critically
>> important moral issues.
>> >
>> > Far better to just canonizer your views, than rehashing half baked
>> versions ad infinitem.  Instead build and track consensus around your
>> ideas, compare them to better views, amplifying the moral wisdom of the
>> crowd, and making everyone more interested in the good arguments (those
>> that convert people) not the ones that polarize people.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I don't like this suggestion.
>> It looks like you want to stop discussion on Exi-chat and move
>> everyone over to your website.
>> We need discussion in order to adjust and refine our opinions.
>>
>> BillK
>>
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