[ExI] article about Rafal and his daughter

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Fri Jun 24 05:49:48 UTC 2022


On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 10:38 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 1:12 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 8:33 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 8:58 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should clarify that I approve selecting one embryo over another if
>>>> there is a very significant genetic downside with one such as down
>>>> syndrome. Selecting one embryo over another for a very slight improvement
>>>> irks me for previously mentioned reasons.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ### Let's say you are faced with two possible courses of action:
>>>
>>> A) Results in X% risk of disease, trivial or severe, or inconvenience or
>>> other unpleasantness afflicting your child
>>> B) Results in X+1% risk of risk of the above outcomes
>>>
>>> Assume the costs of either action are the same and there is no impact on
>>> you or third parties except through the different effects on your child.
>>>
>>> Are you telling me there is a plausible situation where taking option B
>>> is preferable to option A? Under what ethics?
>>>
>>
>> Because it never is like that - it's never that clean - in practice.
>> There are always other factors and risks commingled in.  Pretending it is
>> that clean ignores those other factors, with negative results too often for
>> his tastes.
>>
>
> ### Let's say
>

Let's not, because constructing clean fantasy hypotheticals - as opposed to
looking at messy reality - is the problem being objected to here.
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