[ExI] 27 psychedelics??

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Thu Mar 17 19:18:25 UTC 2022


In general they would be mostly synthetic or semisynthetic (ergotamine
precursor, could use dmt or ephedrine from plants as a precursor, etc) but
there are reports of adding psychedelics to the growth substrate of
psilocybe mushrooms which may cause them to hydroxylate the 4th position on
the indole ring of whatever chem was added.  So in theory adding DiPT to
the mushroom substrate can produce some 4-HO-DiPT in addition to the
already present 4-HO-DMT (psilocin, which becomes O-phosphoryl-psilocin
(psilocybin) in the plant so maybe the resultant chem would be
O-phosphoryl-4-HO-DiPT?) .

As for the theoretical home researcher, a little bird with huge pupils told
me it is exceedingly easy and 100% legal to order Psychotria viridis leaf
and Banisteriopsis caapi vine from European clearnet sources, and then it
would technically be illegal, but very hard to find or prove given use in a
closed environment like, say, your house, to brew these into ayahuasca,
which could technically be dosed with various ratios of the leaf (DMT) and
vine (MAOI) as well as admixture plants, or other DMT/MAOI containing
plants like mimosa hostilis/acacia confusa for DMT or syrian rue for
harmala alkaloid MAOI, to produce anywhere from a microdose experience to a
mild shroom-type experience to a full-blown 12-hour shit-your-pants vision
quest experience.   But that's just what the bird told me.  He also said
something about psychedelic and dissociative analog chemicals also being
readily available on the clearnet, including ones that are just straight-up
prodrugs for LSD and the like, and are bizarrely completely legal, but he
was frying pretty hard at that point and was saying some shit about dark
matter being consciousness or something.  Idk

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:06 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:17 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> numerous substituted indoles/tryptamines and substituted phenethylamines.
>> 4-AcO-DMT or 2C-B for example
>>
>
> Thanks!  I'll check my local pharmacy!  I assume these and most others are
> synthetic, not naturally derived from plants, mushrooms, etc.  Otherwise,
> where can I get the seeds?  bill w
>
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>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:39 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>> https://neurosciencenews.com/psychedelics-conscious-awareness-20203/
>>>
>>> Which ones am I missing out on?
>>>
>>> bill w
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