[ExI] 1950 census - using the dead

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue May 17 19:14:57 UTC 2022


Just whose privacy is being protected?  The dead?  I think that we should
use the dead in any way possible if it will help us with our lives, such as
the medical info you referred to, Spike.

Therefore, I would contact the descendants and tell them that you have
information on their dead relatives.  You don't tell what info, but hint
that some might be good, some bad, some neutral, and let them decide.  But
then, I am  a very open person and will tell all to anyone who asks.  When
I am dead they can think what they will - can't hurt me.  bill w

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:55 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> From: spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
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> >...I sometimes comment that I learned something I wish I didn't know.
> Does anyone here have a good example of finding out something you really
> wish you didn't know?  I don't.  I have learned some disturbing things, but
> I would rather be disturbed than ignorant.  So... while respecting others'
> privacy, I am good with the 72 year delay on census records.
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> spike
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> I have a related question to the above about cognitive dissonance and
> learning something you wish you didn't know.
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> In my quirky hobby of DNA-based genealogy, I sometimes learn things that
> are disturbing about my own family which I intentionally withhold from the
> rest of the family.  This is a question even more loaded with moral and
> ethical ambiguity, the kind of problem at which I do not do well: if it
> can't be modeled with a system of simultaneous differential equations, good
> chance I can't solve it.  I don't do ethical dilemmas.  This is why I
> didn't go to medical school and I am so glad I didn't.  I have withheld
> some biiiiig stuff from my own family and continue to do so.
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> Note the above comment assumes the questionable position that one does not
> do wrong by doing nothing.  It's the train switch dilemma where you choose
> to do nothing and five are slain rather than switch the tracks and
> sacrifice a different three.  Maybe.
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> Another good example: thru DNA genealogy, I discovered that one of my
> adopted third cousins was sired by her great grandfather (her great
> grandfather met a teenage girl who was a squatter on his land, his son
> never confessed that he had met a squatter on the same land 19 years
> previously and had sired a daughter, who the old man later met and sired
> two before he married her and sired five more.  The father and great
> grandfather were the same man.  I never told my adopted cousin that
> information, even though it might be medically relevant.  It's a moral
> dilemma which almost made me give up DNA genealogy when I was first
> starting.
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> Question please: if you find out something (legitimately) which you
> realize is relevant but perhaps disturbing to someone else, do you withhold
> or tell?  First think about a related question: is there information you
> wish you didn't know?  So if you want to know, but are willing to withhold
> relevant true information from someone else, does not that violate the
> golden rule?  Looks to me like an exception to the golden rule, which is
> ordinarily a solid ethical guide.
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> If you ponder the father = great grandfather dilemma, I have an even
> thornier one for you, also related to DNA genealogy.
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> spike
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