[ExI] us

[William Flynn Wallace]

All of your advice about the virus is for intelligent people. A President
speaks to all and should know just how deficient many are, and will follow
whatever their idols say.

bill w

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 9:59 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >…Off on a tangent:  if you think the climate debate is a lot of
> exaggeration and is a bad strategy, how can we go about selling nuclear
> energy?  Here in the good old USA we don't have the rabid critics like
> Japan and Europe bashing nuclear energy.  So why aren't we building more of
> those plants?  All the accidents came from human error, not from the source
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> Billw, note the difference between saying the climate debate is a lot of
> exaggeration to saying the climate change brings about the end of the
> world.  That whole end of the world business is a huge exaggeration.  I
> accept that climate change is real.  I don’t believe it causes the end of
> the world, or that it will happen in 8 years, 2 months, 9 days or any
> absurd variation on that.  This old planet has been here a long time, and
> we have really good evidence that things do not change quickly.
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> We have good evidence that nearly all the carbon on this planet was once
> in the form of carbon dioxide, in a period when the sun was more intense
> than it is now, and yet life found a way to evolve to the point where it
> drew most of that carbon out of the atmosphere and used it for living
> tissue.  All existing coal, oil and natural gas was once in the form of
> carbon dioxide and methane.  Now it isn’t.
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> Increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will cause increased greenhouse
> effect according to all the models I can understand.  That should increase
> the number and intensity of hurricanes and melt ice everywhere.  I contend
> that these will happen slowly enough that we can deal with it.  I do not
> think either of these will cause the end of the world.
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> But what if it does?  If the world does end, what happens after the world
> has ended?  What about all those who fail to notice the world is over?
> What if they go on about their business as usual, pretending the world just
> went on as before?  How do we notify the fools that the world ended, they
> are dead, so they should stop what they are doing, fall down and be still?
> Should there be some penalty for those who fail to die?
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> Reminds me of a favorite old song about why do the birds keep on singing,
> the sun keep on shining, don’t they know it’s the end of the world, it
> ended when global warming melted the ice…
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> Here’s a treat:
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> https://youtu.be/ThK5M8Ttzpw
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> >…old post - Dan accused you of leaning to the right.  More or less
> defending Trump, as you did to me.  I just don't understand how one can be
> neutral about a person who was described by his aides as a 'baby'.  Or one
> who suggested that people inject bleach into themselves.  Neutral  bill w
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> Billw this is an example of how exaggeration causes cynicism.  Trump never
> suggested injecting or ingesting bleach.  He suggested a injecting a
> disinfectant, which most of us here did inject when they became available.
> A disinfectant fights infections: it helps prevent covid infection but also
> fights existing covid in the body.  The mRNA vaccine is a disinfectant.
> That part about bleach was an extrapolation, injected for political
> advantage.  It worked, for a while.
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> Solution: don’t go to political leaders for medical advice.  Go to medics
> for that.  Go to political leaders for political leadership.  Ignore their
> medical suggestions.  Ignore your doctor’s political advice.
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