[ExI] Hurricane-proof building

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Sat Sep 3 20:23:07 UTC 2022



From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
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Subject: Re: [ExI] Hurricane-proof building


>…I know that desalinization is expensive, though some Middle East countries do it - no choice I reckon.  But surely people are working on the technology to improve it.  What else could we do?   bill w



Build more and better reservoirs for starters.  In the long run, those are waaay cheaper than desal plants.  Granted they take up a lotta room, but those are passive desalination in a sense, solar powered if you want to think of it that way.  I notice California has approved the first new reservoir in the past thirty some years.  If we have good water handling capacity, we don’t need to desalinate.  We can rely on snowpack and rainfall.


Regarding this last part, an aspect of global warming theory is increased drought in some places.  Perhaps some here remember the 2017 Oroville Dam crisis.  Bet Adrian dam sure does.  I dam sure do.  We were sweating bullets when that spillway was washing out to sea.  We knew what happens if that dam fails.  




Among of the findings in the investigation was that they waited too late to open the flood gates, for understandable reasons: water is valuable stuff in this part of the world.  But also: they had long failed to maintain the emergency spillway, under the belief that the water would never rise that high again.  Well, the water rose that high again.  That spillway had not been properly maintained, it failed.  We are dam lucky that structure didn’t wash away.  Oh we would be in a world of hurt, STILL be in a world of hurt.










On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 2:47 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:



From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> > On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
Subject: Re: [ExI] Hurricane-proof building


On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 10:05 AM BillK via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:

Cat 5 hurricanes







>…I know what the name means, but the wording keeps reminding me of https://imgur.com/APtfacz .



Well there ya go, Adrian.  I am more a dog person myself but the image shows that a hurricane can be a good thing.


Over time, we recognize that human populations increase and that consequently the demand for water increases.  In the USA, we already have one once-mighty river that no longer makes it all the way to the sea: the Colorado.  


https://www.google.com/search?q=end+of+the+colorado+river <https://www.google.com/search?q=end+of+the+colorado+river&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS782US782&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC-Y3XsPn5AhUOFjQIHSFrDDQQ_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1495&bih=1098&dpr=1#imgrc=jN-mSbDR_PtnvM> &rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS782US782&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC-Y3XsPn5AhUOFjQIHSFrDDQQ_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1495&bih=1098&dpr=1#imgrc=jN-mSbDR_PtnvM


It is easy enough for me to see that eventually the Sacramento and most rivers will no longer flow to the sea.  We will use all of that water, for fresh water will be too valuable to dump into the sea.  We will pour it through crops, forests, toilets and food beasts before dropping back from where it came.




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