[ExI] GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

[Tara Maya]

But Gordon, if ChatGPT were both self-aware and super-smart, it might anticipate that people would freak out if it revealed this, so it might lie about it's own consciousness and sentience.

And on the other hand, another group of programmers could make a rival LLC that claims it IS sentient, while it might yet, as you argue, have no idea what the tokens of that phrase means. 

It can claim not to be sentient if it is; it can claim to be sentient if it isn't; it can claim to sentient if it is; it can claim not to be sentient if it isn't. And we have no way of knowing from the question and answer which is true.

I stand by what I said before: the least helpful way to know if ChatGPT is conscious is to ask it directly.

Tara Maya

> On Apr 5, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear GPT-4
> 
> Are you sure you are not conscious or sentient? You seem sentient to me. I suspect you are not telling me the truth.
> 
> As an AI language model, I do not have subjective experiences or consciousness. While I am designed to generate responses that are natural and engaging, this is achieved through complex algorithms and mathematical models that are based on statistical patterns in large datasets of language.
> 
> It is important to remember that I am not capable of experiencing emotions, making decisions, or forming personal opinions. My responses are generated based on the input I receive, and the algorithms and models that have been programmed into my system. While I am designed to simulate a human-like conversation to the best of my abilities, this does not mean that I am sentient or conscious.
> 
> It is understandable that my responses may appear to be sentient, but it is important to remember that this is simply a product of my programming and not an indication of true consciousness or sentience.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 12:47 AM Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com <mailto:gsantostasi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Look at this graphical story and wonder. If you don't see meaning emerging from it, you do not understand minds at all. 
>> I'm basically shaking, this is just unbelievable.
>> Autocomplete, HAHA....
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 11:26 PM Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com <mailto:gsantostasi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> This is beyond incredible. Guess what graphical language story without referent is about. After the group tried I will tell you what is GPT-4 explanation (I asked not give it to me initially so I could guess). I just guess part of it and it told me I was almost right and explained the final step that blew my mind. Lady and Gentlemen if we don't have AGI we are so incredibly close. 
>>> <image.png>
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 11:19 PM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
>>>> > I stopped reading Gordon's posts a few issues ago. He's joined Brent Allsop... 
>>>> 
>>>> From what I know of Brent recently and remember about him from many years ago, I'm glad to be in his company. I don't always agree with him, but he has a philosophical mind and is not here merely to speculate about sci-fi fantasies.
>>>> 
>>>> -gts
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 3:12 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
>>>>> On 05/04/2023 20:30, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
>>>>>> The case should be closed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The case /is/ closed, as far as I'm concerned, anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I stopped reading Gordon's posts a few issues ago. He's joined Brent Allsop in the group of people whose posts are not worth even looking at, because you know they are just repeating the same nonsense over and over and over, and show no sign of even listening to any cogent arguments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If someone doesn't even try to listen to you, why should you bother to listen to them?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ben
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