[ExI] GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem
avant at sollegro.com
Sun Apr 9 17:05:05 UTC 2023
Quoting Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>:
> That is the only kind of consciousness with which we have any familiarity.
> I think it is reasonable to infer something similar in other people and in
> other higher mammals, as their anatomies and nervous systems and lives and
> behaviors are so similar to ours, but then things start to get sketchy as
> we go down the food chain.
So for you consciousness is an all or nothing thing? Either you have
it or you don't? You and Bender call LLMs "stochastic parrots". Since
African gray parrots are approximately as intelligent as 3.5-year-old
human children, that would imply that ChatGPT is likewise at least as
conscious as a 3.5-year-old human child if not more so. That is unless
you can specify the difference between intelligence and consciousness,
in such a way that humans have consciousness and birds do not.
Incidentally, while smarter than the average bird, parrot intelligence
is thought to be less than that of corvids like ravens and crows.
Parrots being 3.5 years equivalent human age (EHA) and the smartest
corvids being about 7 EHA.
> In the effort to justify the belief that even
> software can be conscious, people find themselves saying all sorts of silly
> things, for example that doorbells and cars are conscious.
> Their arguments
> lose by reductio ad absurdum except on ExI, where anything goes.
When it comes to the survival of the human race, silliness is
preferable to factual inaccuracy. Thus far, I have caught your
supposed thought leader Bender in two cringy factual inaccuracies. The
first regarding parrots as being models of unconscious stupidity and
the second being that octopi don't understand the uses of coconuts
which is clearly refuted by this video.
I don't think that your hero Bender understands parrots, octopi,
bears, or tropical islands as well as she thinks she does.
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