[ExI] new term

efc at swisscows.email efc at swisscows.email
Sun Apr 9 23:23:10 UTC 2023

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023, Gadersd via extropy-chat wrote:

> I used to describe myself with labels but I eventually realized that my definitions of many labels doesn’t agree with the definitions others use and that definitions shift over time. The result is that many people end up arguing semantics rather than the actual content of their beliefs.

Makes 100% sense. I have a friend who is a "social" libertarian and I'm
more "classic" and a way to understanding and empathy for us is to talk 
scenarios and content and not labels, and also talk about the reasons for 
the opinion.

I think Habermas has some technique or method to facilitate this. But
reading newspapers today and listening to politicians, I think Habermas
method might just be the whisper of a dream. ;)

> This reminds me of the old trend in artificial intelligence of using symbol based methods. This paradigm eventually fell out of favor when machine learning became popular. The reason is that symbols often don’t actually reflect the underlying reality they represent, often they are just arbitrary labels. By focusing on raw computation, machine learning has a much greater ability to model actual reality and achieves much better results in practice than symbol based methods. Technically, it is all symbols deep down: 1s and 0s. However, machine learning computes at a much lower level than symbol based methods, sort of like the difference between computing the digits 3.14… of pi vs using just the symbol π.

I also tend to think in terms of computer science and how systems work,
and I am frequently reminded as well of the similarity of things. But I
guess we have at some level "encoded" or "rediscovered" our basic
natures in our wonderful computers, so it is probably just very natural.

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