[ExI] list intimidation

[Giovanni Santostasi]

Learning about another culture, like looking up the alphabet sex stuff is
not faking. It is trying to understand the other. You may find it alien,
different from what you are, and so on. I would not even mind if the "fake"
in the US way to be was a form of culture. You can really stretch the word
and say it is a kind of culture but in the way that Doritos is a kind of
food.
It is a cheap way of being. Not sure where it came from. Maybe from people
coming from so many real cultures, cultures that took centuries to grow and
solidify and everybody had to fake it to be accepted or even understood.
The US is amazing for being a multicultural fest but and when you happen to
be in the area of a city with a large community that maintained something
of their original mother culture is a wonderful experience but then when
people interact or are completely assimilated they start to fake it.
It is sad like Italian Americans forgetting not just the Italian language
but cooking horrible imitations of the real thing.


On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 5:55 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> >…I had so hard time since I came to the US because I don't understand the
> fake culture…
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> Meh, it’s the beauty of fake culture: you don’t actually need to
> understand it to fake it.
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> Consider internet culture, or more specifically, here culture.  We have a
> kind of specialized ExI-chat culture which has evolved and grown.  I hear
> mod hipster terms which just are not part of my world, such as troon, and
> the sexual preference alphabet stuff, I never know what any of it is.  It
> isn’t my world, never has been, won’t be.  But I can fake hipsteriety by
> merely looking it up online, then pretending I always knew that.  Phony as
> a three dollar bill I am, but in a good way in a sense.  Read on please for
> the reasoning behind that comment.
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> The internet and particularly here, is a marvelously liberating place.
> Why is that, he asked himself.  Because, he answered himself, everyone has
> control of every discussion.  At any in-person social event, one must read
> the other person or people to see if they are interested in what you say,
> balance the air time and all that, oy vey.  But online, no need for those
> social graces, for you are forcing no one to listen to one’s endless
> commentary.  They don’t need to read it.  If I enrage someone and they chew
> my ass online, I don’t need to read it, even if it is addressed directly to
> me.  I might or might not, depending on what I think of the person writing.
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> All of this has enormous advantages.  For instance, if I annoy the hell
> outta someone and they flame my ass, then I recognize it and don’t read it,
> then I can go on as if nothing was ever said.  That allows me to appear to
> be a super forgiving person, which is a good thing, even if it is really
> fake.  I figure everyone has a bad day sometimes, and perhaps this was one
> of theirs.
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> >… California maybe is the fakest place of all. I have lived in the US for
> 30 years now and still have trouble to adapt fully to this very indirect,
> actually fake way to behave in society.
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> Hey cool, a perfect excuse: I lived in the south, learned gentlemanly
> manners from people who really know how to do it right.  Then I refrain
> from stabbing anyone in the back.  After growing up in the deep south, I
> moved to California, and have been here 40 years now, so by Giovanni’s
> theory, that entitles me to be fake.  But it’s a good kind of fake.  Hell,
> think about it.  In a sense, diamond is fake coal.
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