[ExI] e: GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Tue Apr 18 01:33:20 UTC 2023

Yes, the text is a great model, or map, that is very isomorphic to the real
But as Giovani is fond of saying: The map (or the abstraction) is not the

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 5:38 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 2:28 PM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> My argument is about large language models. LLMs, in the purest sense of
>> that term,, are nothing like such a system. They have no eyes, no ears, no
>> senses whatsoever to register anything outside of the text. They are
>> trained only on symbolic text material. From their point of view, (so to
>> speak), the corpus of text on which they are trained is the entire
>> universe.
> I agree that the text constitutes the entire universe for the LLM. But
> don't lose sight of the fact that it was our universe that created that
> text.
> So in a sense, the universe of the LLM is the same as our universe, it is
> just one-step removed: it is our universe as interpreted by human minds.
> Jason
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